The person I feel most sorry for is their daughter, should they ever have one.
I've yearned for a daughter, I know what it feels like to want one. But I was also realistic enough to know that my preconceived notions of what having a girl would be like were probably completely whack.
Heaven forbid their poor daughter hate pink and plaits, or want to play soccer, or not want to have children.
ETA My mistake, I've muddled up the genders. But reverse it all and you get my drift
Last edited by lambjam; 01-05-2013 at 16:06.
I'm obviously not being clear enough to get my point across and I am struggling to find another way. So please forgive the following bluntness.
Just because I disagree with 1 thing that requires bodily autonomy, doesn't mean I agree with all aspects of bodily autonomy.
You sprouting that I am not for bodily autonomy is a negative overdramatic misrepresentation that I believe is intended to *insinuate* that I am wrong.... that I am anti-female because I don't agree with non-medically necessary abortion (which you disagree with).
This doesn't bother me, I just wanted to try and lift the veil on perceived hidden meaning. And I am happy to stand corrected if I have Mis-interpreted your intent... !
If a woman kills her hubby because she wanted his money = bad
If a woman kills her hubby because he screwed around = still bad but starting to somewhat understand
If a woman kills her hubby in self defence as he is bashing her = serves him right!
In the same way, people can judge different abortions differently, depending on the intent/circumstances etc. Every person has their own threshold when judging. For me aborting a baby simple because its a girl is abhorrent. Aborting because the woman is clinically depressed and unable to cope, not so bad.
I guess I don't understand because I see it as your either pro-choice or pro-life. A fetuses disability, gestation or gender should have nothing to do with it. You either value all life or you value choice. I see it as hypocritical to say your pro-life/pro-choice except for xyz.
While I understand the EMOTION behind reactions like, "I have been trying for X amount of years, and would be happy with ANYTHING I could get... so I don't agree with termination/termination for XYZ reasons," I don't think it's a rational argument to make. After all, me having a baby or not having a baby doesn't make an ounce of difference to whether you have one or not yourself. Me NOT terminating my pregnancy doesn't make you magically fall pregnant.
But I guess sometimes rational thought processes are pushed aside when we're feeling particularly emotional about a certain topic... and I guess maybe that's the case when people do this.
I've struggled when TTC both times, and my current pregnancy is an IVF one. When trying to get pregnant all I wanted was a healthy baby, and I had an immediate emotional response to someone expressing disappointment that their baby was the 'wrong' sex, when I so desperately wanted to be having ANY baby.
However, while I felt that way, I also logically understood gender disappointment, if that makes sense. I knew that my reaction was a kneejerk one, coloured by my own emotions, and it wasn't how I truly felt when I rationally analysed it.
So, I can understand the feelings of all those who find it abhorrent to abort based on sex, and I share a lot of those feelings.
However, I support a woman's right to choose to terminate an unwanted pregnancy, and I also find it abhorrent for a third party to legislate that her reasons for terminating may be deemed invalid and therefore she may be forced to continue with said unwanted pregnancy.
I would support her right to decide for herself, over my own feelings and emotions on the topic.
Hope that made sense!
She could just as easily have forbidden us from saying we were "pro except for..." which is what many people in this thread seem to be. People who would have failed our essay
Last edited by lambjam; 01-05-2013 at 17:07.
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