I'm at work but I'll reply tonight with my costs etc and how I started with Greece
Jamellabeth that is very exciting. I'm glad it went well.
This is has been my experience with Dr Kanakas too.
as for the twins. My partner doesn't think it's a good idea for me emotionally or physically and I agree. I'm seeing my FS for a scan on Thurs and will discuss it with him. It's a big decision but my research has shown little advantage to having two embryos put in.
We we are off on Monday for two weeks. The countdown is on. I can't wait.
Oh, @Positano1 you must be so excited!
I can't wait to hear how you go, I'm so excited for you! Dr Kanakas couldn't stop telling me about all the Australians he has coming over at the moment (I think he is quite thrilled about how many babies he has in Australia!)
We are looking at going for 2 weeks as well (in July) and we will have our son with us so it may be a bit of a juggle for a couple of the days but Dr Kanakas was fantastic about us bringing DS with us and even suggested a couple of apartment style places for us rather than a hotel.
Yes the twins thing is hard, as soon as I get the scripts from Dr Kanakas I'll be seeing my FS and asking her opinion on the reasons for transferring 2 embryos rather than 1.
Does your son know why you're going away? We've tried not to let our son know too much for the time being, he is only 6 and if he thought we were going over to "get a baby" he would be telling everyone!!! All he wants is to be a big brother!
I know you're going to be flat out the next few days getting ready to go so a HUGE good luck, enjoy Greece and don't forget to drop a line every now and then to let us know how its going!
As @Vixjc said everyone's journey is slightly different.
I'm 46 (still can't believe that!) and I've been looking for a local donor for a while but I must admit I never really felt comfortable with the whole process of "dating" a complete stranger in the hopes that she might offer me her eggs one day. Its all too complicated and my DH struggled with it as well.
I looked in TWEB but its way too expensive and the success rate is abysmal. I read a post on another site about a lady who went to SA when she was 50 and fell pregnant first go, she lived not far from me and we chatted and thats how I discovered O/S egg donation. I then stumbled upon this thread about a month ago while googling overseas egg donation and spent an entire weekend reading every post!!!
My husband and I had already spoken to our FS about finding an egg donor and we have had extensive (and expensive!) tests on both of us - particularly DH's little swimmers, to make sure that if we went down this path that they could perform - LOL!
So for us:
- I contacted 2 clinics directly (Serum & Embryoland) and within 24 hours I had replies from both with costs and details.
- I spoke with Dr Kanakas and we then had a skype call with him
- I was super worried about my FS being on board but when I called her she was actually fantastic about it and is happy to support me with scripts and scans etc BUT she can't be seen to support O/S egg donation so essentially she won't have any contact with, send notes or make reference to any overseas clinic.
-we could go earlier but we are looking at heading over to Greece in July.
its moved very fast and surprisingly easy!
ivf transfer - 5,300 - 5,700 euros.
Medication for for donor - 900 euros
embryo storage (unlimited embryos) - 500 euros
plus any medication and scans I will need to have here before I leave.
Airfares for us are a little higher as we need 3 tickets and accom, but we have decided to relax about the costs (for this trip) and enjoy a family holiday while we're there.
Then if I need to head back over I'll go on my own and the costs are significantly less according to Dr Kanakas because its simply the transfer of another set of frozen embryos.
Hope that helps, let me know if you have any other questions (I'm sure I'm missed something!)
Thanks for the information everyone, I sent an email today to embryo land today and got a email back and then the doctor called me but It went to voice mail, he wants to set up a Skype call with me.
I don't have a fs can I just use my gp to do the tests? I haven't bothered with a fs as I know my chances of using my own eggs at my age is practically 0. What do you recommend ?
He does prefer to use Skype I had my consults on Sunday evenings at home.
For the program he recommended for me, would easily be done with a good GP.
As you start on the pill, he will advise you when to stop etc
Then you start taking progynova tablets as per his instructions.
Ive been able to get this tablets from any GP
Plus Ive been able to get a bulk billing lining scan done from a local clinic.
Buy the progesterone here in Greece soo much cheaper.
Unless you have immune issues or other complex issue with your uterus etc I think it could easily be done with a GP.
Some medications which are used by other clinics GP are not able to prescribe such as the nasal spray, their computer systems don't allow it as its an authority script.
Best wishes xx
Vixjc I also could not help and buy my donor a gift as well. I bought a pandora bracelet with rose charm on it. The bag and wrapping now looks rather battered but I hope she knows how much it means to us.
Yay count down is on Positano good luck Ill be cheering you on.
Thank you CherryCP for your well wishes. Ive also read really good things on FF site about Iakentro clinic. Even from people who did not get the result they wanted.
Big hello to Yasna and Dette & your bubbas are snuggling
And hello to everyone else sorry if I missed someone
Just want to say thank you for the support and kind wishes transfer is set for tomorrow and all embryos are still growing along.
I want to transfer 3, but I will be guided by the Dr they may say no anyways
I did something totally out of character for me today out shopping, I bought the most cute baby mobile toy. We had a rule at home, no baby stuff. I since felt bad my own daughter had nothing Hubby was straight up yep lets buy that. He normally says no we have a rule. No matter if its even 1 $
I also bought a gift for a friend who has recently had her baby. Ive avoided her ever since my daughters funeral when I found out she was pregnant. I just could not face her. I of course sent the proper thank you etc.
They were the first people to give us a gift when my blabbering husband told them I was pregnant. They also bought me a gift at her funeral too.
I was just about sobbing in the store, it felt good to buy something for her baby even if it made my cry.
Wishing everyone lots of baby dust
Hi SharonG! My journey started when I came to the realisation after 2 rounds of ivf and 2 FS' s with very poor response to stimulation, that I had no hope with my eggs. It was quite a distressing hurdle to get over. My FS (wazza) looked me in the eyes and said, if only I could get through to you to go OS and use DE. Little did he know... DH was the obstacle.
Wazza gave me heaps of info on different countries and I did a lot of web surfing. Initially I looked at South Africa, but didn't feel 100% about the donors... The big thing for me is getting a donor that has a similar background and looks like me. Both DH and I have a Mediterranean background so Greece was the best fit for us, plus Greece has great facilities and a high success rate.
One of the brochures wazza gave me was for: ivftreatmentabroad. I contacted Ruth Pellow via her website and have been in regular contact via email and skype since. Ruth is a nurse for a number of clinics in Greece and Spain. I found treatment costs are very similar at the Greek clinics I researched. You may like to look into their stats (success rates) with both fresh and frozen embies.
I'm budgeting on around $14000 for the treatment, drugs, flights and accommodation. I am spreading this out over the next few months so it doesn't hit the wallet all at once.
I guess step one is doing as much research you can... and get in touch with a couple of clinics. Decide when you want to go and start getting ready, ie there are tests to do, plus line up your GP or FS for support with scripts and scans. Hope this helps.
Hi everyone, welcome Sharon, hope you choose the right Dr for you, I used Embryoland and worked with my specialist here in Brisbane for meds, scans etc. The girls have explained it well, so I wont add to it since I do believe ive shared heaps about my journey already. You've surely seen my donkey pictures!
I came home from work on Sunday and found blood in my pad and also in the toilet and when I wiped, ive been wearing a light pad to soak up those messy pessaries. In extreme panic I skyped Dr Nikos straight away and he answered immediately saying "are you bleeding?", talk about psychic! I said yes! He said "don't worry you wont lose your baby". He told me not to panic and to wait for my scan next week with Dr Alexander my o.b.
I barely slept all night woke with more blood and rang Dr De Ambrosis "wazza" at 530am..he told me to come in for a scan to ease my mind or go to the mater hospital, they have an early miscarriage/pregnancy unit. He said it was up to me and not to worry. Being broke since my Greek adventure and spendig $300 last week on scans I decided to go to my local hospital and went straight to emergency.
Getting there at 6am there was only myself and another guy who slashed himself with a stanley knife at work. I told the lady at reception I felt like a hypochondriac and she reassured me that my pregnancy was precious and I have a right to be concerned. Ten minutes later a Dr and student Dr came and took me to a room, I explained the situation to them and they took a blood sample and told me that i would be scanned to check the health of my baby.
I waited for another ten minutes and a man with a scanning machine rolls into the room and tells me to lie down, puts cold wet jelly on my belly while I try and stretch to see the screen in anxiety. My baby was alive and well with a heartbeat measuring 130!!! it was 120 on last Friday!! Sac measured 7weeks and I was diagnosed with a small sub-chorionic haemorrhage. Which is what Dr Wazza said I had on Friday. The scan man said it was small and not to worry, that its quite common and to avoid rough sex, not that Im getting any im single. They told me to come back if I have abdominal pain or heavy bleeding. Fingers crossed I wont have to return to the hospital and I can see my o.b next Wednesday.
Talk about sigh of relief! I waited around an hour for my bloods and hcg came back at 67000!! Another relief! So that was my day yesterday, i feel like such a drama queen, but this is my 10th ivf and my first with donor egg, Ive never bled with any of my other pregnancies so Im freaking out a bit. I really want my baby to stick and to hold her/him in my arms for Christmas! It doesnt help when my job has me lifting 11kg boxes and im too proud/stubborn to ask for help since I feel I'm quite strong and capable, but alas ive been told to take it easy and get some help. I work for myself in a catering business on weekends and a relief teacher during the week. I think im over doing it, but im not one to be idle, im a very active person.
Thanks for reading my rant, I feel better for sharing and I will make a few calls today to try and work out a way around this heavy lifting, which I dont think 11kg is heavy.....maybe its not the lifting but just something that occurs randomly in 20% of pregnancies? ( from what Dr Google says) confused anxious and kinda happy, over and out till my next action packed post...xoxo
P.S Good luck Frances, Positano and Dette, cant wait to hear about your scan.
Yasna - so glad the scan looked good. Definitely accept some help at work. You should not be lifting boxes, etc. It does not mean you're weak you just have precious cargo to worry about now!
Frances, Positano and Dette - I'm praying for you and wishing you all the best.
I'm actually not doing well.
Last Friday night my home computer crashed and could not be saved. I am finally back online today and went through and read all the posts I've missed. Thank you all for the info re age, etc. I'm glad to know there are so many in my boat.
But, my boat may be sinking. My husband and I had a rather big argument regarding this whole issue. I am extremely upset and don't know what to make of it. He seems to have resigned himself to a life without children and he does not think it a good idea for us to pursue this. He does not want to do the skype call with Dr. K and just keeps talking about the possible complications and my age and saying he is worried about me, blah, blah, blah.
I am so confused. We (thank God) have no health issues. Obviously, we are not perfect specimens and could lose a few pounds, but that's it. He seems to completely overlook the fact that I have not resigned myself to a life without kids. He's completely freaked out and now says he wont discuss it any further!! What?? This is not just his issue. I'm finding it hard to even believe what I'm hearing. I never dreamed he'd take such a stance. I thought he'd come around after hearing that the doctor was going to hook us up with women who delivered at age 47 to 50 and had healthy babies and typcal pregnancies. But he doesn't want to know anything about it.
I have been teary eyed all day. I cannot stop thinking about this and replaying my life. I have such regret that I was not ready for kids at 25 or 30 and waited til 35 to start and discover I had a problem. I have such regret that I did not force this issue (using DE) when the original IVFs we did were not successful - but the cost (over $40,000 US) was just too great to pursue it and I did not know about Europe, etc.
I'm just crushed. I'm hoping that he will think things over this week and come around to at least talk with the doctor next Sunday and take it from there. I don't know what else to do - this is a serious, life changing issue and I do not think he is taking it serious. We are in this together. He always said he wanted children and now he's not even willing to try DE. I don't know what's come over him. I'm so overwhelmed with emotions right now.
I'm sorry to be a downer but I just needed to vent and get this off my chest. Its been a tough weekend for me all the way around and now I am more confused than ever.
Uugghh! I feel like I'm walking uphill, through sand, holding weights in my hands.
Oh gosh, I want to give you a great big hug @justcan'tstop!
Sometimes people get angry when they're scared, men in particular tend to rant & rave and get angry when they feel out of control in a situation or feel threatened. Its like a defence mechanism.
I know my DH will get all worked up about something then a few days later after he has calmed down and thought about it he will see sense.
Give him some time and space to think about it, try to put yourself in his shoes and think about what he may be most worried about if a baby comes along, then write him a letter (sometimes its easier than talking!) with all the reasons you believe a baby will make you a better family. Try to touch on the points you think he may be most worried about. Maybe its suddenly moving too fast for him to keep up with. I know that I tend to do all the research, read up on everything and then just tell my DH whats happening - LOL! sometimes I forget that he's not inside my head all the time!
You are a strong, healthy women and there is absolutely no reason why you can't have an easy pregnancy and healthy happy little bub.
Keep working towards your goal, keep moving forward and if you have your call with Dr Kanakas on your own - thats ok! (I actually recorded the call just in case I wanted to watch/listen to it again!) DH can listen in rather than be a part of it if thats easier.
Good luck and seriously big hugs to you!
Last edited by Jamellabeth; 28-04-2015 at 12:42.
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