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    Quote Originally Posted by wantingtostart View Post
    Yes I absolutely would. I have always went into a relationship saying I want a large family. If a decade later when we're married and my time is running out, my husband has a change of heart, why wouldn't I?
    Because your wants and needs are not more important than your husbands.
    Because (for me) it flies in the face of what little ownership men do have over their sperm and what happens with it once it leaves their bodies.
    Because, again for me, it turns the ‘‘no means no, under all circumstance, you don't continue if she says NO‘‘ thing into a bloody laughable thing.
    Because under no circumstance is biology or the ticking biological clock an excuse to force anyone into something they don‘t want.
    Because it's not just your life you're screwing with but the lives of two other people and you have no right to do this.
    Because it brings shame to women and actually does start solidifying the ‘‘she trapped me‘‘ argument.
    Because sex with a condom you‘ve tampered with, etc, is actually considered a rape crime in switzerland, so that should at least make you think of the moral implications of what you‘re about to do.
    Because it‘s decietful and to be honest disgusting that you would do that to someone, particularly your husband and shows the blatant disregard for human life, both potential and already in existance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Girl X View Post

    Because (in doing that) you have decided that your needs are more important than his.


    Does that also mean that if your husband were infertile then you would leave him, or would have an affair?
    Quote Originally Posted by Jennaisme View Post
    Because your wants and needs are not more important than your husbands.
    I'm just clarifying (and hoping it really doesn't need clarifying) but your needs and wants are just as important as your husbands needs and wants (and vice versa).

    I would never trick my partner into having a baby, however, if my partner was infertile I would be happy to get donor sperm. If he wasn't happy with donor sperm, I would leave him. Family (children) is a deal breaker for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wantingtostart View Post
    Yes I absolutely would. I have always went into a relationship saying I want a large family. If a decade later when we're married and my time is running out, my husband has a change of heart, why wouldn't I?
    Wow, selfish much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by wantingtostart View Post
    Yes I absolutely would. I have always went into a relationship saying I want a large family. If a decade later when we're married and my time is running out, my husband has a change of heart, why wouldn't I?
    Because changing your mind should not mean another person is entitled to deceive you.

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    Please don't attack Wantingtostart for simply answering the subject with her point of view.
    While i and most of us on this thread do not agree with her opinion, i am grateful she had the guts to post it. I am always so disappointed in the way women attack each other, especially on bubhub.

    Wanting to start, thank you for providing a point of view from the other side of the arguement

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atropos View Post
    And what if you had the change of heart, and your DH started poking holes in condoms or tampering with your pill to trick you into falling pregnant even though you'd changed your mind? You'd be ok with that?
    Well I would deserve it for leading him on. I could get an abortion if he did that anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Girl X View Post
    Lots of reasons.

    Because it's dishonest.

    Because it's a betrayal of his trust.

    Because you're forcing him into a financial and emotional arrangement that he doesn't want.

    Because (in doing that) you have decided that your needs are more important than his.

    Because you would be bringing children in to the world who weren't wanted, and who will have to live with the ramifications of that.

    Because you would effectively be saying that your desire to have more children is greater than your love for your husband, and your consideration for those children (those that you do have, and those that you would be planning to trick him in to).

    Does that also mean that if your husband were infertile then you would leave him, or would have an affair?
    The children would be wanted by me. And why would his wants for a small family override my wants for a large family?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennaisme View Post
    Because your wants and needs are not more important than your husbands.
    Because (for me) it flies in the face of what little ownership men do have over their sperm and what happens with it once it leaves their bodies.
    Because, again for me, it turns the ‘‘no means no, under all circumstance, you don't continue if she says NO‘‘ thing into a bloody laughable thing.
    Because under no circumstance is biology or the ticking biological clock an excuse to force anyone into something they don‘t want.
    Because it's not just your life you're screwing with but the lives of two other people and you have no right to do this.
    Because it brings shame to women and actually does start solidifying the ‘‘she trapped me‘‘ argument.
    Because sex with a condom you‘ve tampered with, etc, is actually considered a rape crime in switzerland, so that should at least make you think of the moral implications of what you‘re about to do.
    Because it‘s decietful and to be honest disgusting that you would do that to someone, particularly your husband and shows the blatant disregard for human life, both potential and already in existance.
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    Perhaps is was deceitful for my husband to tell me he wants a large family for so long, then suddenly change his mind. His needs and wants are not greater than mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wantingtostart View Post
    Well I would deserve it for leading him on. I could get an abortion if he did that anyway.
    Wow that's full on the trouble is he couldn't force u to abort it or keep it so the balls always in your court you can keep or terminate regardless of what your partner thinks.
    I would think of karma and question would you like that pushed on your child.
    Forcing someone to have or abort a baby is wrong no matter if you're the man or the woman.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wantingtostart View Post
    The children would be wanted by me. And why would his wants for a small family override my wants for a large family?
    Why wouldn't you move on and find someone who shares your 'wants' or go it alone and get donated sperm?

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