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    On consideration, I don't think using or wearing snake skin, crocodile skin or fur is the same as standard leather. Exotic skins and furs are usually used in ornate, decorative ways, they are usually designed to be a bit flashy. Even if you set aside the objection to killing an animal purely for it's skin, wearing an animal skin that is designed to be a bit flashy makes me cringe a bit. I'm thinking specifically of exotic skins used in boots and bags and fur for jackets and coats. Standard leather, whist it can sometimes be polished up to be a little more ornate, it's first quality is it's practicality and durability. For example, apart from trainers I've yet to find a quality pair of shoes that are not made from leather. Synthetic materials don't wear as well and can smell very quickly. Another thing, would synthetic materials (eg vinyl) be biodegradable?

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    Have any of you seen the chinese fur farm videos

    sad and so totally wrong.

    a little off topic i suppose....


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    I know most of Stella Mccartneys shoes and bags are made from biodegradable faux leather ( and are more expensive than real leather!)

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    Not a fan of snakeskin, it always looks tacky. I don't know anything about how the snakeskin industry works, however.

    I did kill a snake today, and no, I didn't even consider using its skin or meat, how wasteful. To be fair it did slither in my lounge room uninvited, and wouldn't leave when I asked. If it was outside a fair distance from the house I would not feel the need to kill it, but curled up under the lounge furniture is a bit close for comfort.

    Leather: I love it, I can't stand synthetic shoes, and love my leather lounge suite. But I raise beef cattle, so of course I would say that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bugsy View Post

    I did kill a snake today, and no, I didn't even consider using its skin or meat, how wasteful. To be fair it did slither in my lounge room uninvited, and wouldn't leave when I asked. If it was outside a fair distance from the house I would not feel the need to kill it, but curled up under the lounge furniture is a bit close for comfort.

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    Maybe I'm too much of a city girl- but OMG! I don't think I'd ever go near the lounge again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by maria02 View Post
    Maybe I'm too much of a city girl- but OMG! I don't think I'd ever go near the lounge again!
    Burn that sh!t down.

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    Love snakeskin cowboy boots !! Only time snakeskin looks good ( IMO ) ..
    Love fake fur .. I do have some real fur coats ( my mothers ).. Would never purchase myself though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lambjam View Post
    But what if we eat the meat, as the link above states? In that case a leather couch surely has nothing in common with ivory.
    I didn't bother reading anything said before my post other than the OP. Perhaps AUSTRALIAN leather may come from cows slaughtered for their meat, but I wouldn't be confident that this is the case everywhere... and how many of our leather couches and whatnot are Australian-leather anyway?

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    Sassy- genuine q- how ate leather shoes better for muscoskeletal health? I can't ind any info?
    I didn't research it - I took my podiatrist's word for it, and my own experience wearing leather shoes VS synthetic shoes tended to make me agree with his advice. My feet suffer from over-pronation (I roll my ankles inwards quite a bit) and I needed flexible shoes in order to fit my orthotics. Leather stretches - it meant that the orthotics and my feet fit in the shoes well, and that the stretch in the shoe allowed my shoes to stretch properly around my feet, rather than comforming to the shoe's size/shape itself (in the case where a little bit was snug or something).

    Mum also has problems with her feet (her toes are seriously mangled) thanks to, according to her podiatrist, having them enclosed in synthetic shoes.

    It's not just the leather - it's the sole, where and how it bends, etc... but for my feet, the stretch the leather provided was essential.

    So that's just what I've been told by professionals who specialise in that area. I'm inclined to believe what they say without needing to research to back it up. Following their advice proved useful to me, so I'm confident they know what they're going on about.

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    Probably not a popular opinion but I never really give a thought to how my leather shoes etc come to be.

    I do not like snake skin simply because of how it looks, it has nothing to do with whether it is a humane way to treat a snake.

    I guess that my views come from a place of believing that humans are at the top of the chain and that animals are there for our use (not condoning cruelty).
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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyMummy View Post
    I didn't bother reading anything said before my post other than the OP. Perhaps AUSTRALIAN leather may come from cows slaughtered for their meat, but I wouldn't be confident that this is the case everywhere... and how many of our leather couches and whatnot are Australian-leather anyway?



    I didn't research it - I took my podiatrist's word for it, and my own experience wearing leather shoes VS synthetic shoes tended to make me agree with his advice. My feet suffer from over-pronation (I roll my ankles inwards quite a bit) and I needed flexible shoes in order to fit my orthotics. Leather stretches - it meant that the orthotics and my feet fit in the shoes well, and that the stretch in the shoe allowed my shoes to stretch properly around my feet, rather than comforming to the shoe's size/shape itself (in the case where a little bit was snug or something).

    Mum also has problems with her feet (her toes are seriously mangled) thanks to, according to her podiatrist, having them enclosed in synthetic shoes.

    It's not just the leather - it's the sole, where and how it bends, etc... but for my feet, the stretch the leather provided was essential.

    So that's just what I've been told by professionals who specialise in that area. I'm inclined to believe what they say without needing to research to back it up. Following their advice proved useful to me, so I'm confident they know what they're going on about.
    No worries, thanks for the info


 
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