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    Quote Originally Posted by lambjam View Post


    However, lack of super is a genuine concern... Lack of super is everyone's concern. Come retirement the living expenses of those who don't have super will have to come from somewhere else, AKA other people's tax
    This, if people don't have super, then they will go on the pension, which comes out of tax payers dollars. It would be great if there was a way to generate super for mothers on maternity/family leave. I don't mean people who never work, I mean the ones who take a year or two out and then rejoin the work force. I am not sure what the answer is though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lambjam View Post
    As would my children be. I'm a SAHM because, having tried both, I believe my children are far happier this way. I know I'm incredibly lucky to have choice in the matter too.
    I'm really interested to read this because it is something I've wondered about with my children too. Even this year doing 3 & 4 year old kinder they are starting to get very tired towards the end of term. Add mainly music and play dates (both of which are obviously optional) and they are very busy! I find they are needing lots of time just playing quietly at home or their behaviour really starts suffering.

    Of course they are young yet, and things may be different in a few years... but then they will also have greater commitments and may just need that quiet time at home even more. Which is something I know they would miss out on if I was working.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    This, if people don't have super, then they will go on the pension, which comes out of tax payers dollars. It would be great if there was a way to generate super for mothers on maternity/family leave. I don't mean people who never work, I mean the ones who take a year or two out and then rejoin the work force. I am not sure what the answer is though.
    i didn't really agree with the super thing at the start of the thread but I now really think it makes sense. And is fair to mums who have worked before having children,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plan2bamummy View Post
    People think outside the box, both parents working full time doesn't mean 5 days a week childcare ( I might add if you're working you should get some back in rebates anyway)
    Our kids will be 1-2 days at the most, why? Because DH and I will work alternative days, and when there's a clash that's when childcare comes into it. There are 7 days a week and in this day and age there are plenty of jobs overnight or on weekends so you can swap. We will still have family time and we will also get individual time with our kids.
    I also find it hilarious that people are claiming after childcare they will only have a bit left over, but isn't that more than what you have now? Isn't some money better than none?
    Plus many of those lower income jobs are actually the ones that can work nights and weekends so effectively the other parent ( assuming youre not solo) can look after the kids whilst you work ( and as part of your role is not the standard mon- fri it should mean you have a weekday or two off therefore less days at childcare ).
    Sorry I know that this is the sahm thread now ( didn't realize at first) but it really bothers me those that stay at home and cry foul at us working parents being given an opportunity to spend some time with our bubs when we have/ are financially contributing to the tax system and in my opinion should have the opportunity.
    Have you actually worked like this? Have yoy had a small baby at home and worked 5 nights a week, finishint at 2am and then getting up when your child does at 5am and looking after them for the whole day while your DH works?

    I dont agree with PPL for SAHP's either but sorry your post struck a nerve with me.

    I did what I posted above for almost 2 years before DS2 was born. I started workint when DS1 was 3 months old, 5 nights a week, from 8pm-2am and my son never went to daycare and my DH works 6 days a week from 5am-5pm. Hardly the ideal you posted about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plan2bamummy View Post
    People think outside the box, both parents working full time doesn't mean 5 days a week childcare ( I might add if you're working you should get some back in rebates anyway)
    Our kids will be 1-2 days at the most, why? Because DH and I will work alternative days, and when there's a clash that's when childcare comes into it. There are 7 days a week and in this day and age there are plenty of jobs overnight or on weekends so you can swap. We will still have family time and we will also get individual time with our kids.
    I also find it hilarious that people are claiming after childcare they will only have a bit left over, but isn't that more than what you have now? Isn't some money better than none?
    Plus many of those lower income jobs are actually the ones that can work nights and weekends so effectively the other parent ( assuming youre not solo) can look after the kids whilst you work ( and as part of your role is not the standard mon- fri it should mean you have a weekday or two off therefore less days at childcare ).
    Sorry I know that this is the sahm thread now ( didn't realize at first) but it really bothers me those that stay at home and cry foul at us working parents being given an opportunity to spend some time with our bubs when we have/ are financially contributing to the tax system and in my opinion should have the opportunity.
    I really admire your tenacity and you are obviously hard workers which is awesome

    If I'm reading correctly, when will you have family time? I could be misinterpreting your post, but I would rather have time as a family even if it is only doing mundane stuff around the house, or something simple like a picnic, than always be passing one another in the hallway so to speak.

    Which I guess is why people sometimes don't opt to have a member of the family working every day of the week. I get that it would be necessary sometimes of course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OurLittleBlessing View Post
    I'm really interested to read this because it is something I've wondered about with my children too. Even this year doing 3 & 4 year old kinder they are starting to get very tired towards the end of term. Add mainly music and play dates (both of which are obviously optional) and they are very busy! I find they are needing lots of time just playing quietly at home or their behaviour really starts suffering.

    Of course they are young yet, and things may be different in a few years... but then they will also have greater commitments and may just need that quiet time at home even more. Which is something I know they would miss out on if I was working.
    I think kids need you more as they get older ... Especially teenagers .. This is where the big work begins ! ( I have been told by friends who have kids finishing high school )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Plan2bamummy View Post

    I also find it hilarious that people are claiming after childcare they will only have a bit left over, but isn't that more than what you have now? Isn't some money better than none?
    With respect, it's not your business what others choose to do. You could go on the other end and say is $50 week really worth missing out on your kids?? and I will be clear I do NOT judge people that make that choice, but really, if that's your argument it goes both ways.

    I don't think it's 'hilarious' at all what I do find amusing is working women, coming into the SAHM section bagging out our choice to stay home and dissecting whether our reasons are good enough for you.

    Would you be ok with me going into the working parents section saying I think it's hilarious how you all think money is everything (and I know you all don't think that but ykwim). Please be aware of the section you are posting in.
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    Axe the BB and spend that and more contributing to unpaid (and part time paid) parents super for as long as they are raising the next generation of tax payers.

    Sounds good to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maybelline View Post
    I think kids need you more as they get older ... Especially teenagers .. This is where the big work begins ! ( I have been told by friends who have kids finishing high school )
    When DS1 was 9 months old and started full time childcare, I comforted myself with the thought that if I just buckled down at this point I could be at home later on in his life. While I intend to go back to work, I never want my hours to be such that my teenage children are at home alone in the afternoons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plan2bamummy View Post
    And if money isn't everything then why get your knickers in a knot about financial issues like working mothers getting ppl and others missing out or lack of super.
    A thing called equity? I have said I am happy for PPL to get *another* increase which will put it at least double what the BB is. But if we are all about choices....

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