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    Quote Originally Posted by lovepink View Post
    I don't like the idea of forcing kids to study for them, although the NAPLAN format is really tricky for those poor year 3 kids, especially if the haven't used it before. Most of it is multiple choice which is a skill they need to learn ( which the school hopefully will be teaching) they always have two answers that 'seem' correct as well. It is really confusing for the kids as if they aren't taught to look at all the answers first most will just put down the one they see first that 'seems' correct. Therefore getting the question wrong. I think if you have a child who thrives on homework and is always looking for something else to do its not a bad idea to buy one of those workbooks for them to do. Or if you have a child that struggles with new formats and might need that extra one on one time. However if they don't enjoy homework that they already have I wouldn't be doing it. Reading, sight words and Maths facts are the most important at this age, focus on those.
    I would be annoyed if my child's school taught them how to do the test. What a complete waste of curriculum time, learning how to do multiple choice!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    I would be annoyed if my child's school taught them how to do the test. What a complete waste of curriculum time, learning how to do multiple choice!
    Unfortunately, thanks to the MySchool website, we find ourselves spending a lot of time on those stupid tests, because the NAPLAN a data is what goes on the site and what some parents use to decide where to send their children. Since the Government changed the funding allocation for public schools, small schools and country schools need all the students they can get to increase their funding. So, even though I know that year 3s are too young to be meaningfully assessed by the NAPLAN, and if parents want to get an incredibly detailed picture of their child's learning outcomes I could sit with them and tell them, I tend to spend a lot of time going through those bl00dy NAPLAN practice papers...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrsharvey View Post
    Unfortunately, thanks to the MySchool website, we find ourselves spending a lot of time on those stupid tests, because the NAPLAN a data is what goes on the site and what some parents use to decide where to send their children. Since the Government changed the funding allocation for public schools, small schools and country schools need all the students they can get to increase their funding. So, even though I know that year 3s are too young to be meaningfully assessed by the NAPLAN, and if parents want to get an incredibly detailed picture of their child's learning outcomes I could sit with them and tell them, I tend to spend a lot of time going through those bl00dy NAPLAN practice papers...
    I'm a teacher, would not recommend basing your decision on my school alone.

    Schools cheat, it narrows the curriculum and personally I would rather find a school that offers a broad curriculum, not one that teaches how to colour in a circle for multiple choice.

    It is for these reasons that I vehemently oppose myschool.

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    Oh, and if your school does badly on naplan, you get more funding

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    I cannot imagine any parent choosing a school purely on Naplan results...it is an insult to the "parents" to assume they could be so simplistic!

    I do think that schools need to be transparent and that myschool is a good tool for families. Just as schools get good rep's for the arts or for sports, academics is also something measurable and valuable.

    By having a set national test, it helps show which areas do need help. Often there are reasons for results...high EAL population, socio economic etc and people living in those areas will know that and if the school is open to discussing it with prospective/current families...it will be a non issue. We need to stop our standards falling and help support the schools in doing so, how can the gov't help unless there is some sort of standard measure.

    As for "wasting class time doing practice tests"...i find this really strange. Class time is used for all sorts of things and letting kids experience new things and growing. Why is it a waste of time to run them through a multiple choice test? They will be using these tests throughout their lives!! Driving licences for example.

    The written part is stuff they should be doing anyway...ie write a story, write a recount, write a procedure.

    The maths is pretty basic stuff (mainly)...i would not be worrying about covering the new material...but surely showing them how to narrow down answers is not cheating the purpose of the test??

    Spelling and grammar...just show them some examples. I cannot imagine why it is such a big deal!

    The tests should be fun for the kids, no stress applied by the school...if the kids are stressed that is the fault of the school and not the test. My son cannot wait...he loves the idea that every kid his age will be doing the same test at the same time...he thinks that is very very cool. He loves imagining where all the other kids might be sitting and if they are having fun and he loves the idea of unity (them all doing it together).

    Being able to see the schools results does help...but it is just one of several tools that a parent uses to chose a school. I would be more worried about the attitude of the teachers who are calling it rubbish and fighting it...if you have nothing to hide and are happy with the way the kids are going...just be proud of that.

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    I think NAPLAN is actually creating our falling standards, not helping raise them!

    Why is it a waste of time? Because it is one test on one day. You can teach your kid how to colour in a circle at home.

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    Well I'll say I don't agree with it. It is possible to rig NAPLAN by teaching the test if you know what I mean. I would prefer my child be taught properly and then have a test that shows where they are truelly at not because they were taught the test.

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    I'm not ashamed of my teaching abilities. I welcome anybody to come into my classroom.

    If you are going to judge me by naplan, then I think that's a bit silly. I work in an area where most parents have an education level of year 9 or equivalent, so my students are well behind others from the start. That's not their fault. But, if you measure their growth between year 3 and year 5, we will surpass any private school in the country! But you won't find that on myschool

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    Oh, and just want to add, I don't think naplan is rubbish, but I think myschool is.

    Do you know anything about the "like" schools from myschool?

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    I don't have school aged kids yet and know nothing about Naplan but my SIL and I have been looking at schools lately for our kids and we did look at the naplan results on the my school website and it may be coincidence but the schools with the "bad" reputations had lower naplan scores than the ones with the "good" reputations -so if its not a reliable way to check out the schools academic records then how to we check them?


 

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