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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirst33 View Post
    Of course it's a wide range!!! You don't know how much we'll decrease our emissions! Why is that such a hard concept to grasp?!

    Why don't you tell us your answer to your question.
    According to skepticalscience, it is expected to warm by about 5C by 2100. With a 95% confidence that it would be between 2.2 and 9C.
    http://www.skepticalscience.com/

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    Would you agree with those figures?

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    Ok...
    So that's well in that range of ensuring extinction of species.

    What's you're condescending point?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirst33 View Post
    Ok...
    So that's well in that range of ensuring extinction of species.

    What's you're condescending point?
    Can anyone explain how the current rate of approx 0.14C/decade becomes 5C by the end of the century?

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    Probably a prediction based on the rate we are developing and our population is growing which leads to greater emissions which then leads to greater warming.
    Last edited by Kirst33; 28-05-2013 at 14:23.

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    Some doctors agree with the anti vax movement, not many though. So what is your point? There is never going to be 100% agreement in any field. But when the overwhelming majority says that it is so, then I am going to go with them.

    Of course you don't think for yourself father, you believe in conspiracy theories, quite funny really. Do you believe in the tooth fairy as well?

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    I see you acknowledge that some climate scientists agree with me.

    I hope that is not how you make up all of your decisions - majority rule.
    I prefer to think for myself.

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    Good point Beebs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirst33 View Post
    Probably a prediction based on the rate we are developing and our population is growing which leads to greater emissions which then leads to greater warming.
    'Probably'. Does the settled science not explain how they came to that figure?
    From my understanding, and I'm happy to be corrected, that is not the reason for the large increase against what empirical evidence shows.

    The guessed a positive feedback that multiplies the effect of CO2.
    There is no scientific evidence to support this large positive feedback.
    This is really the main area of contention in the science. No one thinks that CO2 doesn't result in a temperature change. No one denies that the climate is changing, it always has. But it is the total size of the effect of CO2 is questionable. They can scientifically show that the direct effect of CO2 would result in an increase of about 1C, but the indirect effect is unknown. Some say there is a negative feedback, whilst others say there is a positive.

    If you are that confident in the science, I would challenge you to find the evidence that supports this large net positive feedback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    Do you believe in the tooth fairy as well?
    I did as a kid, when all the other kids also believed it. If only I was more skeptical as a kid, I would have seen through it.

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    "I prefer to think for myself".

    Or another spin on this is - I prefer to trust the experts in the field, that I am not an expert in. Whereas you for some reason, think you are more knowledgable than almost every climate scientist on the planet in their own field.

    I find that bizarre, It is not uncommon either, anti vaxxers say things like you say all the time. "You are sheep, you follow whatever doctors tell you, do you own "research"" blah, blah. Then they cherry pick bits of data to try and prove their point. Follows the exact same pattern. And yet they try again and again, to prove just how right they are and just how wrong almost all doctors and medical scientists are. And they, just like you clearly have delusions of grandeur. I mean - how else could you possibly explain it? They think they are more knowledgable than the entire medical profession, you think you are more knowledgable than almost all climate scientists.

    I find it fascinating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    Whereas you for some reason, think you are more knowledgable than almost every climate scientist on the planet in their own field.
    Enough of talking about me beebs.

    Would you like to help out Kirst and help me out with explaining how they go from a 0.14C/decade increase and turn it into a temp increase of 5C by 2100?

    Lets talk science, not me.


 

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