Wonderful post Kirst! I saw a tv show on ABC2 the other day about an atheist trying to show a group of creationists science and how the earth was created. This reminds me of that, except most of us are the atheists;-)
It's you're opinion that only temperatures matter but MANY scientists are telling you that it ALL matters. You can cherry pick out of the reports all you want but you always seem to ignore the conclusion that the scientists are drawing from they're vast array of research and knowledge. Warming is happening and it is a problem that we should be worried about. Picking a paragraph out of their report does not change their conclusion.
I'm not looking to change your mind, you obviously feel the environment is not a worthy cause and I've given up on trying to make you see common sense. My frustration lies with that you are trying to convince others that it is not a cause, which to me is dangerous because every person matters in trying to help save the environment from problems we cause. I don't understand the reasoning behind trying to deter people from a worthy cause? If you don't believe it, fine, frustrating but fine. But why does it worry you so much that others believe it to be true when their actions can only lead to good for the Earth? If your problem is the carbon tax, argue the problems in the tax.
You've continually been condescending throughout this thread so I don't think one could blame me for assuming your response (which you still did, you cherry/picked through the report and stated you think only temperature matters and your constant false assumption that warming stopped 16 years ago). You are not a scientist or have researched the environment. Reading things online does not make you an expert. It doesn't make me an expert either, which is why I trust the conclusions scientists around the world are drawing. Your comment that 'we can just adapt' or 'why would environmentalists have a problem with nuclear energy' show that you are far from an expert in climate science. I have no doubt that humans can adapt to global warming, but I, unlike you, care about every other species ability to adapt. We are ruining the Earth and I see no problem with trying mend problems we have caused, whether the predictions are right or wrong we need to start showing some respect to the environment.
This article explains how climate models work and how scientists determined global warming is man made, also how their predictions are normally right: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mobile...usaolp00000003
This is an article about China's air quality, don't know about you but I'm happy to live in a country that wants to combat climate change: http://t.co/9oD8y2jBVX
And finally, how a climate change denier turned into a believer: http://www.wunderground.com/earth-da...climate-change
It's Earth Day in the states so loads to read!