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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirst33 View Post
    Oh for the love of Pete! I thought this was thread was dead! Girls I think it's pretty obvious that unless climate change effects father personally he's not going to think its a cause worth trying to prevent or slow. He's made several comments to insinuate this (his most recent 'wait and adapt,' Fukishima didn't have any human deaths so therefore it's not an environmental disaster, it would do the Earth good to warm a little, WAIT until the water starts to creep higher to a town before we decide to change anything, etc) all lean towards the fact father just really doesn't care if the world changes due to climate change, so therefore doesn't care about slowing its progression. He doesn't care that once the water rises that much it probably means that the temperature has risen enough to kill several species of flora and fauna. I'm wondering what he means by adapt? Because surely it'd be hard to help millions of species around the world adapt? I'm assuming he just means humans adapt (ie deal with cities that are close to the water). I also think his big problem is mostly Australia's actions towards climate change, he doesn't think it's a cause Australia needs to waste it's time on (assuming because its not one if the worlds big emitters) and he doesn't seem to care that Australian ecosystems are at risk because after all, we can just move the cities!! Like I said before Ladies, I'm fairly certain any hubbers that read through this thread will see the common sense of it all and fathers comments will be null and void so this argument isn't really worth continuing.
    Its just so frustrating when people think that unless humans are impacted, its a non-issue.

    For the love of god, won't someone think of the short range endemics

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    What a joke. The EU ETS has dropped to just over $3 Australian dollars a tonne. Meanwhile, we are paying $23 a tonne, with the government expecting it to go to $29 a tonne in 2015.

    The result of the vote has seen carbon prices drop 40 per cent to a record low of€2.63 a tonne, however.
    http://www.resource.uk.com/article/W...5#.UW2-p8rQTni

    This is going to the cost the government (us) greatly due to the compensation package. More than $4 billion a year!http://www.afr.com/p/national/combet...klKNMHVMpbacdO

    I can't believe they have introduced a tax that will lose the government money! It would be laughable if it wasn't so painful.

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    The tax wasn't meant to make money though. It's meant to encourage business, partly large companies, to operate with a more energy conscious focus and to cut emissions.

    I'm not so sure the set up has been successful. But I think that's partially bc businesses like electricity providers are getting cheap resources but still charging the public outrageous prices, thus the need for the compensation.

    I believe the focus needs to go these businesses not on the tax itself. Again, as a Labor voter I'm not sold this was the best way to reduce emissions. What I will say, is they are the first govt to not sit on their hands and pass on onus onto future generations. The Libs were more than happy to stick their fingers in their ears saying lalalala.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    What I will say, is they are the first govt to not sit on their hands and pass on onus onto future generations. The Libs were more than happy to stick their fingers in their ears saying lalalala.
    Really?

    What about Howard's introduction of the Renewable Energy Target? Doesn't this count?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    Really?

    What about Howard's introduction of the Renewable Energy Target? Doesn't this count?
    I would say it went no where near addressing the issues. But that's just my opinion. Mind you, I'm not a full supporter of the labor plan either. Truthfully, I don't have the answers.

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    Heard on the radio last night that the drop in 'carbon' price will result in more like a $7 billion hole in the budget per year! Vice the $4 billion which was an old figure.

    This would easily pay for Gillard's education thought bubble. Better to take it from universities though I guess.

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    Why don't you start a new thread about anti-carbon tax?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kirst33 View Post
    Why don't you start a new thread about anti-carbon tax?
    The 'carbon' tax is part of the great green con. The money-go-round has just increased speed.

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    Below is a graph of the UAH and RSS satellite observation for lower tropospheric temperatures. They are the bright blue and red lines at the bottom. The other 44 lines are the latest climate models with the black line being the average of those models.

    I think it is safe to say.... the models are wrong.

    CMIP5-global-LT-vs-UAH-and-RSS.jpg
    http://www.drroyspencer.com/2013/04/...ew-from-space/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    Below is a graph of the UAH and RSS satellite observation for lower tropospheric temperatures. They are the bright blue and red lines at the bottom. The other 44 lines are the latest climate models with the black line being the average of those models.

    I think it is safe to say.... the models are wrong.

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    Why don't you go to the media with your findings? I'm sure they'd be fascinated if you showed them all these graphs and your interpretations to prove that you are right and the vast majority of scientists any other specialists who have any interest in this field are wrong.

    On a side note, did anyone watch that fantastic 3 part BBC series recently Orbit earth's extraordinary journey? It explained how the climates work. It was fascinating when they explained the 3 variables that need to line up in order to have an ice age. (From memory I think we're safe for another 7000 years.) They also explained things like how a solstice doesn't match with the hottest or coldest day of the year, why the southern hemisphere's summers are cooler than the northern hemisphere and loads of amazing information. (Of course F, you might want to get in touch with them too as they obviously have it all wrong because they were confirmed global warming.) Well worth a watch on you tube.

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