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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennaisme View Post
    That was an article that made me physically ill. It was disgusting and the author should be ashamed of himself. Fancy taking quotes from grieving family, and pictures of the baby and posting them up in his blog to use as evidence and to hold the family up to ridicule and abuse from the general population.

    At the bottom of the page is the grandfather of the little boy who died and what he had to say on the matter. I felt so horribly for him.

    If someone didn't intentionally kill their children, then I see no need for their crucafiction from the general population, especially while it's so fresh and they're grieving.

    ****ing disgusting, whether we agree with circumcision or not.
    This is what I have an issue with mostly, the way this situation is being cut (excuse the pun) so it fits into the box of circumcision death. Does the family really need this kind of media stunt?
    He died of hemophilia, after a medical procedure. If he died after having another medical procedure I highly doubt anybody would be jumping up and down about it saying that xyz procedure killed the baby.

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    I agree this death should not be considered a death from circ, but rather a good example why we shouldn't circ. babies.

    I think that a child should only be circ'd in case of medical necessity or once they are old enough to consent.

    If we waited until it became a medical necessity - generally obvious from about say 6 month to 12 month old and older, or when the child was old enough to consent then haemophilia wouldn't be a problem and cause complications.

    My sympathy to the family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WorkingClassMum View Post
    I agree this death should not be considered a death from circ, but rather a good example why we shouldn't circ. babies.
    Whilst I agree that his death wasn't caused by circ I think it should still be included in circ stats. Every adverse reaction/event that is bought about from a circ should be included in such stats such as infections and other complications. To not do so means we would not have accurate statistics on the risks involved in circ'ing. It's like if there was an operation that some people needed but in 20% of cases people died from a particular complication. Technically they didn't die from teh operation but from the complication but wouldn't a person want to know this associated risk?

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    The poor little man. I just read some of the article which states the poor little thing was unwell (listless) and taken to hospital two days before the procedure. I wonder if you knew your baby was unwell why you would have him circ'd two days later.. actually, I wonder why you would put even a perfectly healthy baby through something like that for non-medical reasons.

    I agree the blog is in poor taste, I imagine the parents realise that the decision they made cost their son his life and so setting up a blog with comments open so soon is a little cruel.

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    I am shocked that they do it so young. I had no idea that they circ'd babies at 9 days old

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    It's shocking. I have to admit it shocks me that the family were not aware if the risk of haemophilia with their newborn son - it's hereditary and you would usually know if it was in the family. A family friend had it in her family - she had two brothers with it, one of whom died young (20's) and the other had a very restricted lifestyle. She herself was a carrier. It was 50/50 if she ever had a son he would inherit it. She really questioned whether she should have children. If its in the family, you'd generally know about it. This must have been a very rare/freak case that the gene had skipped generations or they didn't know family history...(?)

    Very sad.

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    But that is like saying if someone died of sepsis which resulted from an operation, that they didn't die from the operation. They would never have gotten sepsis if they didn't have the operation in which they picked up an infection.

    I feel so sad for this family. I am sure they are kicking themselves, it is different in America as well, most males are circd over there, it is just considered normal.

    Quote Originally Posted by redlipsandpearls View Post
    I don't think anyone is saying that he would have died due to his condition some time in life anyway, but that it can't really be classed as a circumcision fatality.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beebs View Post
    I am shocked that they do it so young. I had no idea that they circ'd babies at 9 days old
    I know... And that the babies obviously bleed enough to be at risk of bleeding out on the case of haemophilia...

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    I think it is tragic and my heart goes out to his family. However people need to be aware of the dangers and there is a very high likelihood that little one would still be with his family if he was not circed.


 

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