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    Hey Twiglets, how are you going? Had EPU yesterday. 12 eggs retrieved, 6 fertilised! 50% fertilisation rate so to speak. How does a FET cycle work? Do you take ANY meds? Do they follow your natural cycle & transfer post ovulation? I hope these embryos do well. I'll be transferring 2 on Friday, the remaining embryos will be cultured til Sunday I guess, 5dp retrieval...before freezing if good enough to freeze. I'm a little apprehensive due to last cycle. My embryos weren't of best quality. I'm being very greedy. I hoped 8-10 would fertilise increasing my chances of 5 good frosties post fresh transfer of 2.
    EPU yesterday went well, very little cramping afterwards until this morning. Didn't sleep well at all. Up at 02:30 then again at 5. Sore back, upper abdo & rib pain. Easing off a bit now. Hope all is well by Friday. Don't want to put my little embies back in to an overly inflamed uterus! Hoping your FET cycle is a success.x

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    Hey Papillon - Glad you got 6 fertilised - I can understand being a bit bummed about the others though but fingers crossed they are all good growers and you get a few worth freezing

    Can I ask what dose of FSH you were on? My clinic is low dose and last cycle I was on 100mg per injection. I only got 2 eggs (luckily both fertilised). They only like to get about 4-6 per cycle as EPU are done with just valium and gas so they don't want you laying there very long. They have upped my dosage to 137.5mg per shot next cycle.

    My DH is s doctor in the Air Force and today just found out he is going overseas for 3.5 months this coming monday! Crap! I quickly phoned my clinic and we are going in at 7am to do bloods for him and to collect semen to freeze.

    I wonder if the process changes using frozen semen rather than fresh. Will they do ICSI or still just let the sperm fertilise naturally?

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    We're all at the same clinic no? This is the springwood thread. I'm very low dose, 100iu. I started out on 75iu, that's recommended beginners protocol (not just for tfc) unless complicated infertility issues such as PCOS etc
    on 1st round of 75iu I wasn't progressing very well so they upped my dose to 100iu during the cycle. I got 1 egg that cycle!!! It turned out to be a perfect embryo all the same - but never took. 2nd cycle they started me on 100 & kept me on that dose. 5 eggs, 4 fertilised, BFN. After I posted today the lab called me back...3 more have fertilised so I actually have 9 embryos!!! Of the 12 eggs, 2 were immature, 1 allowed 2 sperm in (abnormal) and 9 looking good so far. So that's 100% fertilisation rate, I couldn't be happier. Praying the progress well & I get a few frosties. I was on same dose, 100iu...only difference which may/may not have altered anything...I've switched to an anti-inflammatory/endometriosis diet & took lots of anti-oxident supplements. Who knows??

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    Sorry mumsical, I never even mentioned the frozen sperm thing. My hubby often works away too & 1st cycle we were assured we could freeze his sperm too. Didn't need to in the end. Not sure wether that'll mean ICSI or not, I guess if they're strong swimmers & survive the thaw it won't be necessary?

    With regard to tfc...they aim for low numbers & high quality embryos. I was seeing a highly reputable FS before going to tfc, if I'd have stayed there I would have paid thousands of dollars, had to undergo GA & undoubtedly resulted in OHSS. Tfc is essentially a budget clinic because they can offer egg retrieval under light sedation, no theatre & anaesthetic costs. They can't treat complicated cases which require metformin, steroids, clexane etc etc this requires closer monitoring & is very expensive. So if you have no serious infertility issues tfc is a fantastic place to be treated. I am an RN and very reluctant to undergo GA unnecessarily. I have been told I may need another lap to excise endometriosis but I'm putting it off as long as I can, I'd rather work on my diet & inflammation which I believe to be our infertility barrier than undergo surgery that's gonna cause further adhesions/scarring & is ultimately risky. These clinics that go for 20-30 eggs under GA almost always result in OHSS which can be very serious & of the 20-30 eggs retrieved very few are of great quality. You'll be fine... the 1st time successes are usually/statistically younger females & just extremely lucky. Look on your first attempt as a trial run. Baby dust to you.x

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    Thanks Papillon - sorry for a minute I forgot what thread I was in. Of course we are at the same clinic. That is so awesome that the rest of your eggs fertilised! You must be thrilled now

    Yes - for my first cycle I was on the same dose as you but was a little slow so they upped to 100iu. Still only got 2 eggs, both fertilised, 1 transferred on day 3 and the other grew out to day 6 (weekend) before it kicked the bucket. Doc said they will up me to 137.5 for next cycle to see if they can get more eggs from me.

    We have no fertility issues. DH is a doctor himself and we did all the tests possible before contacting this clinic. His sperm came back really high and exceptional mobility/morphology and my AMH levels are above average for my age, definitely ovulating and progesterone fine etc. Regular 28 day cycles nothing unusual about periods, no pain etc. We have a little boy just gone 2 so clearly we are able to reproduce. This clinic appealed to me as I felt it suited our situation and we were able to give IVF a "go" without it costing a fortune.

    We were going to try naturally this cycle and start IVF next month again if no luck but now hubby is going away I will take my pill and do another round using the frozen sperm. I assume DH's sperm will be fine after thaw as even if 3/4 of it died during the process he would still have numbers well in the "average" range.

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    Your 1st cycle sounds very much like mine. I think I did 4 or 5 days on the increased dose of 100iu when the 75iu wasn't enough. I had 2 follicles but only 1 egg. I could have saved money & opted to cancel the cycle but I wanted to see it through & as you know, it only takes 1 egg/embryo. Your other emby did well to last 6 days, it may even have survived in utero. The culture is not a natural environment afterall.

    I love the clinic, my FS was one of the highest rated in Brisbane but I felt pushed into going down the IVF route before investigating/ruling out other causes. & every consultation & set of bloods cost me a fortune! I was reluctant to go forth with IVF until I had a definitive diagnosis, there are no guarantees as you know & $4-6000 a cycle is too much to gamble. Low AMH coupled with Endometriosis is linked to poor success rates & m/c...I wanted other options before embarking on ivf. That was until a friend who used the clinic & has healthy twin babies as a result put me onto tfc. I'd rather low cost, low risk ivf with specialist nurses trained & well educated on infertility managing me than a FS pushing me down various routes without answering the most basic of questions & requests. Pocketing ridiculous amounts of my hard earned dollar in the process. I like the regular nurse interaction & don't mind seeing various consultants because as a nurse myself, they get paid by the hour, enjoy their job & aren't pocketing lots of money by coaxing me into various unecessary procedures. We are so lucky to have such a clinic in Brisbane. Many of my friends interstate & overseas have spent all their savings doing ivf. The outcome is no different.

    be interesting to hear how the frozen sperm goes.x

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    Pap - I'm so happy to hear your news! So, so wonderful that you will have lots of little embies to freeze at this rate. Looking forward to hearing an update.

    Twiglets - how are you going? Been thinking about you.

    Mumsical - I have no experience with freezing sperm but it's great they can do that. Does it cost extra? I overstimulated my first cycle on 150iu (cancelled just before EPU as I had about 30+ follies) and the following two cycles (100 up to 125iu mid cycle) and (137.5iu) I got 2 and 3 eggs (with 2 fertilizing in each). The last cycle was particularly crap. The embryos were poor quality.
    They are starting me on 150iu this cycle coming (start in a week) and I'm hoping I don't overstimulate but reach a happy balance (say 6-8 eggs). I'm after something to freeze because I'm so over having to go the full hog (this is my 4th fresh cycle in 7 months). I would love the option of a FET.

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    Gosh - the costs of other clinics is crazy isn't it. When paying that kind of money you would expect nothing but the best care and respect for your goals with TTC. I actually booked in with another clinic before discovering TFC and so glad I decided to go here. How are your little embies doing today? Are you feeling ok after your EPU? It must have taken a while for them to collect your 12 eggies? I assume you coped well as you didn't mention much about it I found it not nearly so bad as I imagined - but it was pretty quick with only 2 eggs retrieved.

    I just got home from the clinic (feels like I am always there lately haha). Spermies are frozen and we also pre-signed 3 lots of fresh cycle consent forms and 2 lots of FET consents. That should do me well and truly until DH is around again or I get my BFP. I also got a new plan and will start stimming again on 23 August.

    I really hope we all have success with these cycles!

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    Just saw these posts, had to phone the clinic & find out what time I need to go in so took the opportunity to enquire about my embies! They're all dividing still, around 4 at 4cell (normal) some maybe 5,6 & 7 cell...so possibly some going too fast. Will know more tomor. They'll continue to monitor the in transferred ones for 5 days (worries me slightly that they might arrest with a whole 5 days in culture).
    EPU was fine, just sucked away on the entonox. Don't think it was that long either. 15mins maybe??
    how does the frozen sperm work? Did you find out? Actually, how does the defrosting of embryos work?? Do they thaw a day prior to transfer? At 5 days blast stage what happens after they are thawed outwith the body?? Maybe twiglets can answer that. Surely we're gonna see some positives soon!!!

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    Hi ladies. Good luck Pap, I hope all goes well. Ive read somewhere that when embies are thawed they regress one day, so they thaw them the day before so they develop back to a 5 day. This also allows them to monitor the progress.

    Exciting times ahead mumsical. I cant wait to cycle again, but have so much on at the moment, its frustrating.

    Hi to everyone else!!

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