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    There was a news article posted here a few months back, about a mother who got charged with leaving her child unattended in the car when she ran in to pay for petrol, at all times she could see the car and child and she was away from the car for a minute tops. Who wants to take that risk? What you and I think is reasonable someone a police officers may not. Personally I think it is ludicrous, it is far safer for my kids to remain in the car rather than walking through the petrol station. But what are you going to do?

    Some shopping centres are set up so badly, there are a few here that are good, but there is one where the trolley bays are soooo far away, seriously - you'd lose sight of your car if you went to put them back. I have only left it out twice, but both times pushed it up again the wall and there was no way it would be able to go anywhere. I hate when they are left in the parking bays, that is just rude!

    Quote Originally Posted by Hootenanny View Post
    Not that I am suggesting people leave their children in cars for extended periods of time but there is no particular 'age' at which it is illegal to leave your child in a car, it is a rather grey area but ultimately comes down to their maturity/safety. I have no problem leaving my 6 year sitting in his seat for the all of 10 seconds it takes to put a trolley back but to be honest couldn't really care less if someone left a trolley as long as it doesn't scratch my car - because then they would be dead!!!!!!!!

    Edited to add - I just saw there is a law in QLD only that states " A person who, having the lawful care or charge of a child under 12 years, leaves the child for an unreasonable time without making reasonable provision for the supervision and care of the child during that time commits a misdemeanour."
    I think the key there is 'unreasonable"

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    I just leave it in the middle of a parking bay ..so the next car runs into it ... Sometimes I just give it a big push and see where it ends up !!

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    Hahahaha so you're the one causing all the dints in people's cars

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maybelline View Post
    I just leave it in the middle of a parking bay ..so the next car runs into it ... Sometimes I just give it a big push and see where it ends up !!
    Baha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mama and her little bear View Post
    and what if its not a 1 minute I can see the car at all times job?My local coles I put ds in the boot (I have an open boot) and while I load the groceries he climbs in and over into his seat, i then run the trolley back because there is litterally 5 trolley bays in a very small space and you can always get a park within eye site of a trolley bay.My local woolies (much older store) has two but for some reason keeps the side one locked up (which mostly you can only get a side park) so to take it back it is right around the other side of the car park leaving your car well and truly out of sight,its why I majority shop at coles but my local coles doesnt stock the yogurt my son eats or the kitty litter my cats use so I do *have* to go to woolies. I wont drag ds across the road right to the other side of the car park to return the trolley nor do I want to leave him in the car out of sight.oh wont you have some moral ground and think about others

    Calm down! I have no issue with you not returning your trolley! Or leaving your DS in your car! I just don't do that myself.

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    No matter how much people explain not wanting to leave kids in cars or risk runners in carparks, it seems unbelievable people leave trolleys lying about for that reason.
    I think we use our kids as excuses abit too much when we're being inconsiderate. There is no respect for peoples cars when your trolley could be the one that scratches it or causes damage.
    I have 2 kids under 4 19months apart and I manage to get my trolley back everytime, I really just think it's all excuses. I'd accept it if you admit it's just laziness and you don't care, rather than give the excuse its too hard to put it back. Because you managed to get it just fine, and surely you aren't finding stray trolleys in a perfect parking spot, close to the entrance every single time.

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    I make sure I leave mine in the middle of a PWP spot.

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    I usually take them back so I can get my Coles trolley coupon thing back. But I park close to the bays as its a small carpark anyway.

    I have a confession. When I first got my license I was reversing out of a park, clipped the corner of a trolley (not mine) that was left nearby, and it went down the hill, bouncing between 2 cars parked either side. So I got outa there quick smart!! Oh the shame!!

    Note - I'm laughing now cos it was ages ago but I felt awful for ages. It was like slow motion, couldn't stop it.

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    I take the youngest with me to put the trolley back, and carry her back. I'd leave them both in the car, but I risk one of them killing the other or if I take both I carry the youngest and the eldest holds my hand. I have never felt like it was a risk walking through the car park with my 2.

    Honestly, child services are not going to take your child away from you for leaving your child in the car for 10 seconds. Someone posted a snippet of the law, and I agree, the keyword was 'unreasonable'. Putting a trolley away is not an unreasonable amount of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mama and her little bear View Post
    no I was just honestly curious what you would do in that situation?



    uhm well yes actually I do, unless the trolley boy is doing an amazing job (never happens here) you can easily find 2-3-4 or more dumped trolleys and no its not lazyness cos if it was I wouldnt bother returning them at coles either which I do every time cos dont have to leave ds out of sight or drag him across roads to return the thing

    if your car is that precious dont drive it cos you know a rock might damage it or someone might hit you or some ****.

    I have a massive dint in my door from having someone open their door (obviously with force) into my car door, was I annoyed? yes but you know what that's what happens when you take a car out in public!
    What??? People shouldn't care about their cars, it's their fault if you dint it......


 

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