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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyMummy View Post
    Don't get me wrong, I think protest can be useful and I love protesting when people are passionate about an issue. People coming together for a common goal is awe-inspiring.

    It's just that I don't believe, in regards to a coffee shop or similar, boycotting nor a nurse-in are going to do much at all long-term.
    The first aim of today was to ensure this cafe never vilifies a bf mum again. I'm pretty sure we can at least tick that box.
    The second is part of a wider goal- to get the message out that bf in public is perfectly legal and discrimination is not. I'm pretty sure tonight's news coverage will mention that. So another tick.
    I'd say it was a fairly successful exercise so far

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainbow road View Post
    The apathy upsets me too, about this, but also gay rights being thrown around

    When your rights are being stomped on, I hope you have people supporting your crusade, instead of rolling their eyes and burying their heads in the sand because your rights (or lack thereof) are boring to them.
    Exactly. I think that everyone attending a nurse in is doing so to emphasise and protect the right of every mother to bf in public. It's not done to be annoying or shove anything down anyone's throat. I'm really disappointed people feel this way tbh

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    When someone does something wrong we automatically want to punish. But are we punishing that person or ourselves by making that person less receptive to our message because we're actually targeting the individual (when it comes to a nurse-in) rather than the attitude in our society as a whole?


    I personally feel that a non-targeted, factual and non-antagonistic advertising campaign on television would have a more positive effect than a bunch of women rocking up and feeding their children in a location where someone has expressed dislike for it.
    Punishment just makes someone keep their misguided thoughts to themselves. Education could actually prevent those misguided thoughts from occurring in the first place and isn't that much more preferable?

    For the record I think there is a time and a place for acts like nurse-ins, but I just have to wonder if we're not cutting ourselves off at the knees by making the intention punishment rather than education.

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    I am a breastfeeder and passionate about it but I don't think either will do much good!

    I would also be a bit annoyed if someone said that to me while I was Bf DS but I wouldn't go running to the media.

    I can see both sides of the argument. It's our right to breastfeed or babies whenever and wherever, however i can see how some people may not like to see it. That's not to say a BF mother needs to cover up, but I do see how some can feel 'uncomfortable' seeing a bare breast.

    Lets face it, SOME people are NOT that discreet. I have seen women openly let their breast hang out for a few minutes before even attempting to put their baby on. I'm not saying this woman did this, just saying I can see on some occasions WHY it would make someone feel uncomfortable.

    I think all businesses need to know the rules and laws but breastfeeding mothers should be equally respectful.

    That's just my tale on it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eko View Post
    When someone does something wrong we automatically want to punish. But are we punishing that person or ourselves by making that person less receptive to our message because we're actually targeting the individual (when it comes to a nurse-in) rather than the attitude in our society as a whole?


    I personally feel that a non-targeted, factual and non-antagonistic advertising campaign on television would have a more positive effect than a bunch of women rocking up and feeding their children in a location where someone has expressed dislike for it.
    Punishment just makes someone keep their misguided thoughts to themselves. Education could actually prevent those misguided thoughts from occurring in the first place and isn't that much more preferable?

    For the record I think there is a time and a place for acts like nurse-ins, but I just have to wonder if we're not cutting ourselves off at the knees by making the intention punishment rather than education.
    I do t feel that today was punishment, considering the offending party wasn't even there. The thing is, she can hold whatever opinion she wants, she broke the law, and that does require punishment. But the nurse in wasn't it. I believe the offended mum will take legal action, so the courts can decide that bit! I would love to see such an ad campaign as you describe though

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    I think so. It certainly opened up an interesting discussion with some people on my Facebook!
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    We are able to Bf anywhere anytime .. Some people will be idiotic about it .. Still we are legally able to ...so for me I don't see the point for the outrage when some moron says you can't feed....

    But if you feel the need to nurse in.. Go for it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atropos View Post
    The first aim of today was to ensure this cafe never vilifies a bf mum again. I'm pretty sure we can at least tick that box.
    The second is part of a wider goal- to get the message out that bf in public is perfectly legal and discrimination is not. I'm pretty sure tonight's news coverage will mention that. So another tick.
    I'd say it was a fairly successful exercise so far
    The cafe didn't vilify a BFing mother. The individual did. And I'm pretty sure the individual wouldn't have asked for permission before they did so, so I fail to see how the business could have avoided that situation before it happened.

    That's what frustrates me. It's a broad-brush response to an individual's actions.

    ETA: Thinking further on it I guess the business should have ensured that they make it clear in training etc. in regards to discrimination in the workplace. I'll pay that.
    But it still frustrates me when people go broad-brush when it's a reaction to an individual's actions.
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