To then find out that some random member of the public with no credentials at all was coming into school time and teaching her that evolution was wrong, that humans couldn't have come from monkeys, and so on was shocking and hurtful beyond belief.
I will take whatever steps necessary to protect my children hearing such garbage.
This was in a state primary school and I assure you no parents were aware that teir children were being taught this rubbish which directly contradicts their science curriculum
Thanks goodness we live in a country where we are given a choice on how we would like our children to be educated, we are free to choose a school which supports and educates according to our own personal, family or community beliefs.
We have a government which doesn't say one size fits all and must suit everybody and as such funds various schools, as all the parents sending them to whichever school are tax payers.
The government has an obligation to fund all students regardless of the school that they go to, which school is a choice they are free to make. However, I don't believe the government should be funding capital works to private schools.
Saying RE doesn't belong in a religious schools is something just can't get my head around. It's kind of pot calling the kettle black, imposing a set of values or beliefs. Same thing people are complaining about.
One way to improve state schools is to keep kids enrolled in them. Every time a state school loses an enrolment they lose funding.
So beside the point, I don't believe in religious indoctrination for young children at any school. I've explained why throughout the thread, we just have different morals values and beliefs. I don't blindly accept things as just because or because those are the rules. And I would always question what value there really is in compulsory re for any child, its purpose at schools and the agenda of the churches funding them.
My re teacher was gay in year 12 and was not allowed to discuss sexuality, being gay was unacceptable. As a child I was afraid of hell and the devil and being punished by God. Children don't need this crap in the classroom without parental supervision. It's wrong to teach them things they can't question and understand like an adult can.
Last edited by Buttermilk; 24-02-2013 at 15:45.
Slightly off topic but I find the use of the term indoctrination a little over the top. I went to a Catholic primary and high school and RE could never have been described as 'indoctrination'. Classes were pretty basic,no bible bashing,could ask questions etc. There was mass on special occassions,sacraments which as a kid were fun (and to be honest meant a party and presents), and talks about stories in the bible and nothing more. In high school debates often happened,eg in year 12 I wrote an essay as to why RE should not be tested and that sparked interesting debates not outrage between teachers and students. RE was such a small part of the day and sometimes never even got a mention.
Sure it was a core philosophy but that philosophy was really just about being the best person you can be.
So for many people who send their children to a private school, they may not have a real "choice". If public schools were better funded people wouldn't feel private was the only option sometimes.
I realise this is something people who send their kids to a religious school would never agree with, but I don't actually think it's that giant a leap to make that RE studies not be compulsory, certainly not at high school.
Anyway, it's only a dream as I can't see it happening. But certainly one thing this discussion has done is make me realise that, at least for me, separation of state and church is still something I hold very dearly, even if it's less important to others.
I went to a very catholic school. RE was compulsory until year 10. Then after that it was elective. I loved the music the best!
And to say not have RE classes or masses at a catholic school is ridiculous. It's a CATHOLIC school. Yes Catholic.
Last edited by MummaJez; 24-02-2013 at 16:42.
I think that's appalling and has no place in our schools. To force students to participate in RE lessons without parental knowledge or consent is wrong on so many levels.
I hope this was rectified immediately and I truly hope this kind of thing does not ever happen to you or your DD again.
Lol I don't think so.. The irony is I suppose I wouldn't have minded so much about her being taught about Jesus, bible etc (or exposed to it rather ) but I have a huge interest in evolution so that was what bothered me!
I wonder how utterly confusing it must be for children of parents from other faiths, especially if they are being taught this faith. My son's school wouldn't dare have a RE class which taught Christianity as fact. It's a very multi-cultural school where Christians would be in the minority. I would imagine it would be very damaging for some families to have their children attending these classes.
Very convenient how often the parents wishes are whoops - forgotten. Happened to me in high school and my dad, rightfully, had some very harsh words for the school.
Last edited by Benji; 26-02-2013 at 08:53.
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