Thanks all. I'm so confused! For all those who say to 'try' for a VB that's not really the issue. I have complete confidence I can get the head out but its then the problems would start. Trying kind of sounds like try and if things don't work out then an emergency section will be needed but in a shoulder dystocia its too late for a section. This is my issue. Try a VB and zee if I get shoulder dystocia or go the elective ceased and never know but avoid shoulder dystocia? Its not the weight its the abdo to head ratio which is why SD happens in normal weight babies. . If the head takes over the abdo it won't be such a risk. I guess the topic heading is a bit misleading! I don't mean to be so negative and I Ppriciate all the positive comments and stories...I just keep think of worse case scenario s!