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    Father and Kimberlygal.. are you two lovers? Or the same person even?

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    Yes I have seen the quote many times but I was replying to this thread about Australia, I see your point and agree wit most of it but I do believe that shear hard grafting is sometime whether it difference, not always but there is a grey area in every thing, and yes there is sometimes luck involved but not always.

    Working hard can make a difference in life is all I'm saying you don't need to be lucky to succeed in the work force hard graft pays off and it should

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    But not all hard work does pay off. And any assumption that it does is what the quotation is trying to address. The reference to Africa is irrelevant

    ETA The quotation might work better in context, have a read:
    http://m.guardian.co.uk/commentisfre...lth-destroyers
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    I have read it in context I was replying to it In regard to the thread that it is in

    High tax bracket can be from working hard

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    To acknowledge my good fortune does not diminish how hard I've worked. It's to acknowledge that we don't succeed (or fail) in a vacuum.

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    He's scrapping some taxes and unnecessary handouts to boost our economy which will create wealth, spending and more jobs. And this is a bad thing why?
    Creating wealth creates jobs so people have the opportunity to not *need* those handouts in the first place.
    I won't be voting for a government that will promise me a cash bonus, I don't want it, I want to make sure I have a job so I can pay my mortgage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimberleygal1 View Post
    Your spot on!

    The government shouldn't be responsible for paying lower income earners a school bonus. Pay for your own child's education! And who is paying for it is the higher income earner paying a ridiculas amount of tax.
    Nor should the govt be paying for the wealthy to subside their private health or pay for them to buy a house... but hey, it seems on here that the wealthy are more than happy to want hand outs on 150+k but begrudge the poor anything. Pay for your own private health, your house and CC. Ironically though the poor are meant to do it on their own but the wealthy constantly complain they want *more* money. I see far more whinging from the wealthy on this forum than the poor, and usually the lower income earners only arc up when statements like these are made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lambjam View Post
    To acknowledge my good fortune does not diminish how hard I've worked. It's to acknowledge that we don't succeed (or fail) in a vacuum.
    Two people same upbringing same DNA, same race, same ability hard work would make a difference to one, I agree with everything else you have said I just don't agree that working hard is not a factor in earning a decent wage

    You have people with crap up bringing no leg up slogging their guts out on a mine that's not luck it's graft

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renesme View Post
    Father and Kimberlygal.. are you two lovers? Or the same person even?
    No.
    What a stupid question. Two people can't agree with each other without being lovers???
    I would suggest the majority of the Australian population would agree with me.


 

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