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    Just food for thought - with teaching if you already have a degree then you only need to do a 1 year Dip. Ed. to be able to teach - usually primary and secondary.

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    Default primary teaching vs. speech pathology

    Dh is a teacher... And we see a speech path for our sons...so i kinda know a bit about each..

    Speech path makes a hugggeeeee salary compared to dh. Speech paths are also in high demand and you can end up working for yourself like our speechy does.

    Its taken years for dh to get solid work as a teacher even now he can only get one year blocks and thats only on a point 8 workload... (Not even full time)

    If i was smart enough id do speech path >_<

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    I am a third year Speech Pathology student. I decided to go back to uni after I had DS, because I knew I would want to work again one day and really didn't enjoy my previous career path (PR/Marketing). It was the BEST choice I ever made.

    I love what I am learning. I find it so interesting, and I just KNOW I will enjoy my job when I finish. Plus, there are so many options.. working public or private practice? you could work in a hospital, or a school? with adults or children? It is really quite a dynamic career path.

    I also feel comforted knowing that many schools are now employing speechies. This means that I could work school hours (but not have to mark homework, do parent-teacher nights, coordinate sporting events etc.) and be there more for my son when he is not in school.

    I find the study aspect really quite easy. Up until this point I have avoided putting ds in daycare more than 2 days a week (and I have little family support). This year I have squished all my units (including prac) on to three days - and ds will be in kindy those days. I do all my assignments in my breaks between classes. I have learned to become very efficient with my time!

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    Quote Originally Posted by babyla View Post
    Just food for thought - with teaching if you already have a degree then you only need to do a 1 year Dip. Ed. to be able to teach - usually primary and secondary.
    Sorry, but the education department is changing their rules. This is the last year you can begin a one year Grad Dip Ed, and 2014 is the last year you can complete it. After that, it will be a two year course.

    (I am doing the one year Grad Dip Ed this year so that I wont miss out.)

    There is also midyear intake for the Grad Dip Ed this year, so you haven't missed it yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetseven View Post
    Sorry, but the education department is changing their rules. This is the last year you can begin a one year Grad Dip Ed, and 2014 is the last year you can complete it. After that, it will be a two year course.

    (I am doing the one year Grad Dip Ed this year so that I wont miss out.)

    There is also midyear intake for the Grad Dip Ed this year, so you haven't missed it yet.
    TBH that's really good news that they are changing it. We notice a real difference in teachers who are 4 year compared to 1 year trained. Some people are natural teachers and can cope with 1 year training but most people, especially those straight out of school and having just finished a degree, can really struggle in a position after only 1 year of training.

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    Thanks very much guys. I'm very heartened by the fact that ppl are finding it possible to study and look after a LO. Gives me hope!

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    I know I'm chiming in a bit late here,
    Academically the course demands of speech path are high, but as previously mentioned you may get recognition of prior learning if your previous studies were at a tertiary level. That would lighten your overall course load in first year at least. I've always loved my job - I've worked in remote areas as well as metro, managed a stroke unit, been a general paediatric therapist in the public sector, covered aged care and nursing homes, done fly-in-fly-out consultancy work in the disability field, and owned a specialist private practice.

    I'm happy for you to PM me if you have questions about the course or about being a speechie in general.
    FWIW there are loads of jobs in my state

    Edited to remove some potentially identifying info and stuff that could contravene our social media policy
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jellyfishie View Post
    Academically the course demands are a lot higher than teaching (I'm not trying to be derogatory to teachers here, but the entry scores alone tell you that)
    Entry scores do not always give an indication of course demands and I wouldn't consider this an indication of how academically demanding/challenging a course is. I thought demand for a course also impacted the entry requirement eg: the more people apply for Arts the higher the entry becomes...

    I'm interested in hearing why you think teaching is not as academically demanding? Genuine question not trying to stir here.

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    I thought I might be opening a can of worms with that comment, but wanted to make sure the OP was factoring it into their decision.
    Sorry to derail your thread OP!

    There are multiple influences on the entry scores for a course, one of which is the academic demands of the course/profession. For example, if being a doctor suddenly became really unpopular and no one wanted to do it, does that mean they would lower the ATAR entry score to beef up their enrolments? Of course not, the academic demands of the course (i.e. the quantity and application of learning) would still be extremely high, so someone with a low atar probably wouldn't be able to actually pass.

    Enrolment numbers for courses is now uncapped (I.e. the uni can put as many students as they want in a course) but it is unethical to allow students into a course unless there is a realistic indication that they can pass. Failing students is bad for both the uni and the student so there is no point letting someone enrol if they haven't demonstrated an appropriate capacity for academic performance (through high school leaving score, stat test, previous study etc).

    For most unis the ATAR for Speech Path is about 80ish

    ATAR = Australian Tertiary Admission Rank (like TEE, HSC etc)
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    The ATAR for speech path 3yrs ago was 92. I am being realistic when I say that the academic and clinical demands for speech pathology exceeds that of primary teaching. That shouldn't offend anyone, as it is fact, not an opinion.


 

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