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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsPontipine View Post
    Springy, - Has AF turned up yet? Or are you still waiting? Good luck with your May FET.

    Twocam, - Hope your EPU went well yesterday.

    Fluer, - I thought about doing Elonva on our last cycle, but needles weren't my issue, so I just went with what my FS was used to using. Good luck with it, anything to lessen the side effects sounds good. I didn't know that about it.

    Elkalemi, - I am so very sorry for your loss. It's unfathomable to me to lose my son. Sending you lots of that your next cycle.

    I don't think there is a normal, we are all so different. To answer your question however;
    My first Stim at age 43 (antagonist 225 gonal F), we had 12 follies, got 5 eggs, 100% fertilisation. 2 put back on day 2. 3 frozen on day 2. - BFN... Month off before a HRT FET. 3 defrosted, 3 put back on day 3 (but one went back to 2 cells from 4) BFP DS born when I was 44.
    Second stim at age 45, AMH now <1.1 (antagonist 300 tonal F), 3 good follies, got 3 eggs, 100% fertilisation. 2 put back on day 2. 1 frozen on day 3 at 8 cells. - BFN... Month off before a HRT FET. 1 defrosted, lost 3 cells, but by next morning (day 4) was a compacting morula and transferred. 2WW ATM, POAS tomorrow, BT monday ...

    Hi to everyone else .

    MrsP...

    Wow Mrs P. Your embies sound amazing!!! Good luck with your BT So on another note you mentioned they froze a D3 embryo? I thought they had to wait until blactocyst to freeze? Can you confirm this for me. This is really interesting. Also it looks like you have good sucess with FET!

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    Quote Originally Posted by elkalemi View Post
    Good luck with your blood test MrsP xxx I hate that 2ww.

    Has anyone had amh testing? my fs hasn't said anything about it but would it suggest because of low amount of follicles and eggs on pick up I am getting on the low side.

    I must speak to him about it because I do worry about every little thing!

    HI Elkalemi, I tested a little under 18 months ago and my AMH was 6.2 (at age 40). Currently at age 41 my first EPU was 4 eggs and second EPU was 3 eggs but produced much better embryos the second time around, possibly due to ICSI and possibly due to Saizen which is said to increase embryo quality for 25% of women who take it..... It seems to be more about the quality of the embryos than the number of eggs/embryos but it is still great to have some numbers to increase the odds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MGC Bertie View Post
    Kenta.... thanks for your kind words. Yes, I do wonder every day, where our cut-off will be. I think I can do a couple more cycles, but at some stage I'm going to have to do something different.

    Mrs Pontipine.... my DH is determined that I don't use Menopur again, as it didn't do either of the things that the FS said it would (produce more eggs, and grow them more evenly so they would all be of similar size at the same time). I spoke to the FS this afternoon, he said sorry, what more could he say. I'll make an appointment with him in a couple of weeks, go over all the numbers and work out what to do next time. A year ago my AMH was about 4, so I think I'll ask him to re-test that, just to see if anything has changed greatly in a year. You do give me hope that I may get lucky at my age, as it is one thing I worry about all the time.
    Dear Bertie, Is Menopur the same as Gonal F? If you want to avoid Menopur what are you thinking might be the next step? I have tried Antagonist + Gonal F and Long Down reg with Lucrin + Gonal F so next step for me is Elonva....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpringRain View Post
    Bertie, I am so sorry to hear your newsThinking of you.

    Kenta, hoping that this is not the case and your rogue ovary still has time to catch up with a few follies thinking of you.

    MrsP, for your testing, here are some good sticky vibes

    Emski, hope things are going well.

    Hi Fleur, DJ, sunny, Micca, sagitwist and everyone else

    Hi and welcome elkalemi! I am sorry to hear about your son and your recent miscarriage. I had exactly the same problem during my fresh cycles, AF turned up 1 week to 10 days after EPU, despite crinone. During my last FET, my
    FS kept upping my pessaries too, until I was on 4 a day like you. After my first dud fresh transfer, I madly did some research and talked to the FS and clinic. From what I understand, it seems that they think that the influx of hormones particularly FSH during a stimulated cycle somehow decreases the ability of the lining to accept an embryo but they aren't quite sure exactly how yet. So then I asked the FS if I could try a freeze all cycle for my next stim. She seemed quite happy with that, and we were lucky enough to get a few more from that one.

    As Mrs P has mentioned, it does seem that everyone is different and gets very different results even from similar medication. I have polycystic ovaries (but not the syndrome) and only found this out while TTC #2. Both my stim cycles have been antagonist ones, both using 225IU Gonal F, Cetrotide, and triggering with Ovidrel. Crinone was used after EPU. I had AMH testing just before starting IVF, and was told mine was in the abnormal range due to the PCO.

    AFM - AF arrived yesterday (funny that my cycles were always very regular before IVF, now it's anything from 23 days to 35 days ) So now on to FET #2.
    Dear Springrain. Good luck with FET #2. I too am having very irregular cycles now after being completely like clockwork for years. They have advised me that post stimulated cycle your next cycle will always be quite out. I am now doing ovulation tracking (BT + US throughout the month) so pinpoint what is going on so we can try natually in between cycles. Who knows we might get miracle baby that way. FS told me it often happens. I haven't gotten any embryos to freezing point get so I wonder if this would make a big difference since I see some positive outcomes appearing from FET.....

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    Bertie hun, I'm so sorry about your embie Take gentle care of yourself

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    Hey ladies - good news, we got 6 eggs on Friday and 5 have fertilised. We are doing a 5-day transfer on Wednesday.

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    Yay Twocam, - Congrats on your 5 embies. That's great news .

    Fleur, - the embie was a bit fragmented on day 2 so she kept it going an extra day. It got to 8cell, no fragmentation so she froze it. I guess they can do what they want and know.

    AFM, - Its a BFN so we'll be going natural until we go see WDA. Hoping to get in earlier than our late October appointment.
    is anyone on DHEA? Do you have any side effects. I was going to ask new FS about going on it now so when it comes to our appointment I'd have been on it long enough.

    MrsP

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    bertie... hugs to you.. I had that problem with cycle #9 and lucky I had frostie backups... but its so devestating to get that result after all the effort put into it.
    Hang in there.

    springrain.
    .woohoo on starting again..fingers crossed.

    Mrs pontipine...sorry about the BFN..even when you expect it it still sucks..enjoy your pity party, you will love WDA..

    Twocam.
    ..great result..lets hope that there is some nice blasts in that batch

    Fleur... gonal F = FSH (synthetic) Menopur = FSH +LH (made from old womens urine..lol)


    I have never had my AMH done... due to the fact at 44 it will be crap and give me no extra info. But one thing I can say from experience is that between 42-44 our fertility really does decline very very quickly. when I was 41 I was getting 15-22 eggs on 300 of gonal F... and at least 2 blasts and frosties everytime. When I started my cycles at 44.. I was getting 6 eggs most times and the embryo quality had declined... I was lucky to get 8 cells on day 3. So my words of wisdom.. if you find that you come to the stage with a few cycles of poor embryo quality then stop... and seriously start thinking about donor eggs. I wasted 12months and 7 cycles to come to this decision and the money I spent would have easily funded my donor eggs and I would have been pregnant 12months earlier. I know the drive to have children with our own eggs is huge... but due to epigenetics the child from donor eggs is truely yours.. you have the ability to influence the expression of genes in the womb and produce a child that really is yours. And once you hold that baby where its DNA comes from really makes no difference and the baby will look like you no matter what..

    10days until I leave to the states... so much to do..AF here so start estrogen in a few days...

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    I ladies. I can truly endorse everything Micca said. As a mum to 10 month old twins from donor eggs and sperm they are mine well and truly. Henry is quiet laid back dude but Matilda is a real mummy's girl - too much at times. Just today a friend said that Matilda looks just like me. Not sure how as she is a little thing reasonably fine featured whereas I am large boned and chubby. I have loved them and never ever think of them as not mine ( even when Matilda had weeks of waking every 30-60 minutes overnight).

    It has been ages since I was on this thread cycling myself. Good luck to everyone. I will be watching and cheering everyone on their journeys.

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    Twocam... 5 embies - that's fantastic news. I've been thinking of you heaps.

    Fleur....no Menopur is a different drug to Gonal-F. I don't know anything about Elonva, but I'll be researching all these different options in the next couple of weeks before the next FS appointment. Thanks.

    Micca and Wannabb.... thanks for advice on donor eggs. We are seriously considering that. My sister is 2 years younger than me and has offered her eggs, so it would still be tied to us. We'll discuss this with the FS next time. Even though she is only 2 years younger, so has always been much fitter than me (she's the sporty one, I'm the bookworm who thought she'd be married with three kids at age 35!!) If not, we've already started discussing South Africa as a real possibility, since so many people on here are journeying there (and I was born in South Africa, so it's a nice connection). Lots to talk about, though I think we will still try a couple more cycles this year with my eggs and the donor sperm, but have some back-up plans for next year.


 

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