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    Quote Originally Posted by mummanna View Post
    Who will be expected to do all this extra cleaning work? The child care workers who are payed to loom after our children are now ment to do extra work? So they would want a pay rise for it ( I know I would) so child care fees go up again.

    This must be a joke what happened to kids being kids? Eating mud pies and stuff like that I did it as a kid my boys love nothing more than playing in the dirt and mud.

    Cleaning door knobs and toys I think there are better things child care workers can be doing with their time.
    I dont think child care workers *should* get a pay rise. Its still their job to provide a safe and clean enviroment for children. Cleaning is part of the job. I never expected a rise when I was made to scrub the doors and walls, or wash the toys. It is still their job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BornToBe View Post
    Decline? Um... increase. Even if the vaccination rate had gone down since the 80's (which I doubt) the actual amount of diseases vaccinated against per child has tripled.
    Sorry, I meant a decline in kids getting vaccinated not the amount of vaccinations available.

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    Either way it doesn't really make sense.

    ETA: Do you mean, people are more afraid of germs because of the perceived drop in vaccination rates will somehow make them more susceptible to your usual, run of the mill viruses and stuff? I don't get it.

    As for the OP it's just crap. I was reading a book from the 1840's last night, and even then the author pointed out the difference between robust farm kids who played in animal filth (lol) and the cotton wool wrapped aristocrat kids.

    We know exposure to germs builds immune systems, why do we fight it?
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    Like I said, I'm glad I jumped that particular ship - count me out of the nonsense thanks.
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    Wasn't there a hubber who went to a kids bday party and everyone one got gastro from the kids ( who blew out candles).
    I remember that thread

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleigh View Post
    I dont think child care workers *should* get a pay rise. Its still their job to provide a safe and clean enviroment for children. Cleaning is part of the job. I never expected a rise when I was made to scrub the doors and walls, or wash the toys. It is still their job.
    It is their job but the more cleaning they are made to do the less time they spend interacting with the children, I think this is compromising supervision. Where on earth are they going to find an hour a day to clean all the room toys? I know it's possible in a babies room because they have a higher staff ratio which means more hands on deck but in a room with just 2 staff?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BornToBe View Post
    Either way it doesn't really make sense.

    ETA: Do you mean, people are more afraid of germs because of the perceived drop in vaccination rates will somehow make them more susceptible to your usual, run of the mill viruses and stuff? I don't get it.
    Do you know what, I can see how you are totally getting my post confused and are wondering if I am making this an argument about vaccinating...I have tried to type out what I mean 3 times and have deleted it...I am having a sh!t of a day and cant really properly express myself so Im going to walk away now. Ignore my posts in here cos I cant clearly say what I mean without it coming across wrong and inciting debate which I am not up for today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cleigh View Post
    I dont think child care workers *should* get a pay rise. Its still their job to provide a safe and clean enviroment for children. Cleaning is part of the job. I never expected a rise when I was made to scrub the doors and walls, or wash the toys. It is still their job.
    I agree here but I doubt it would make childcare staff demand a raise anyway. I could be wrong but I just can't see the average childcare worker asking for that.

    If anything, they might kick up a stink because they know that these silly tasks just mean a reduction in the quality of care they are giving children because they spend all there time cleaning instead of interacting with children, or doing other tasks directly related to the quality of the actual program. Well that is my feeling at least.

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    Oh wow, it is impossible to sterilise our environment and even if we could it would NOT be good for us anyway.

    Bacteria is a part of life.

    Here's something for you all to ponder as we approach dinner time: apparently the average adult has 1 - 2 kilograms of bateria in their gut. Mmmmmm....

    No but seriously, it's necessary for good health. The government needs to calm down a little on this one.

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    absolutely germs are a WONDERFUL thing!!! they are EVERYWHERE...but I do agree with a few things being done..after watching my friends baby with WC after catching it from kindy through her older brother....minimising risk of serious illness is good.

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    This is crap. I'd be annoyed if the (amazingly wonderful, caring, hardworking) girls at our daycare had to spend time doing EXTRA work. I get that cleaning is a part of the job, but that's general cleaning. Not over the top crap like washing doorknobs daily.

    This is just seriously over the top. I'd love to see how sick these kids get spending all day in a sterile environment and then going out into the real world. Germs are a part of life, they're good for you. Kids are going to come into contact with them!


 

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