The Curtin Detention Centre (the one you are talking about above) is far from what you describe.
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Last edited by Jellyfishie; 05-02-2013 at 15:56.
They get temporary housing. Furnished by Salvos, or another similar organisation. It is hardly luxurious. Normally pretty basic.
As for detention centre being different to a gaol situation, prisoners in a medium security level prison get gaming consoles, swimming pools, gyms, televisions and social activities too. In both cases they are not allowed to leave the facility unless escorted or cleared for a specific purpose. I can't speak about Egyptian cotton sheets, as it sounds a little unbelievable to me, and I have not found anything factual to verify this.
The difference between a prison and a detention centre is that prisoners have been found guilty of a crime. Statistics have indicated that the majority of individuals seeking asylum actually meet the requirements and qualify as asylum seekers. So they are incarcerated regardless of guilt.
As for the op. It really doesn't sound legal to me. Not only that, but scenarios like emptying the fuel out of boats and leaving people with the minimum to return sounds dangerous. And incredibly cruel. These are PEOPLE. With brains and hearts, emotions, families, personalities. It is so sad that their lives seem to be worthless to so many people.
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The media have a vested interest in portraying something in a sensationalist manner. I have seen many stories about the 'horrific conditions' at North Point and Phosphate Hill (IPCs on Christmas Island) which totally differ from that which I can see in front of me with my own eyes.
I do believe these facilities are under-resourced and that greater access to psychology services would be key to reducing self-harm, but that is totally separate to the issue of mandatory detention itself.
The staff (be they customs or navy) are human beings too, not mad mean crazy killing machines, I can't honestly see them emptying a boat of fuel as was previously described.
Egyptian cotton sheets?
Come off the grass.
To be honest, if I fled my country to start a life for my family, I would probably ask around and find out where the best/nicest place was too. I assume they would want the best life they could provide for their family, same as I do. Same as most people.
You do not have to be poor and wearing dirty old clothes to be persecuted. Plenty of wealthy people are genuine Asylum seekers. It is not means tested.
They may pass through countries that are signatories to the Geneva convention, there are many reasons why they may not be able to seek asylum there. Religious reasons, family reasons, etc. The fact is, regardless of whether they did or not, they are still allowed to seek Asylum in Australia if they make it here.
I honestly don't get the big problem, we are not talking about hundreds of thousands of people. Quite the opposite. Compared to European nations and the USA we have minute numbers of both Asylum Seekers and illegal immigrants.
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My husband actually does work in a detention center, and yes, while in detention Australia has a duty of care to provide them with things such as doctor check ups, dentist check ups etc. They are allowed to access things such as the public pool, library, shopping center. Remember, these people are not criminals, they come into Australia looking for refuge. There are compounds in the center, and they cant leave the compound to go visit a friend in another compound, it just doesn't work like that. But yes, while they are given top care in detention, when they leave its another story. All the government does is give them a visa, no accomadation, no job, they have to do it all on their own.
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