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    Default Re: Navy would have role in turning asylum boats around under LNP.

    Quote Originally Posted by BigRedV View Post
    Please tell me what they can get off our government
    From the things ive heard, they become multi millionairs with mansions, flash cars and live the highly life here.
    Their mandatory detention is all a preparation for when they land on Aussie soil and start taking over the country.

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    Default Navy would have role in turning asylum boats around under LNP.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jennaisme View Post
    From the things ive heard, they become multi millionairs with mansions, flash cars and live the highly life here.
    Their mandatory detention is all a preparation for when they land on Aussie soil and start taking over the country.

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    Default Re: Navy would have role in turning asylum boats around under LNP.

    They get given a place to live and money once they are found to be true asylum seekers. They get free health care, including optical etc. When I lived in Darwin, you avoided going to the shops or any medical appointments on Tuesdays as that was when they all went, or the aboriginals.

    Don't get me wrong, I agree with those that are genuine, but those that come.here just for what we give them, that sh!ts me. My DP said that a lot of them ask where the nicest place to live is when the navy boards their boat... They also wear expensive brands (those that aren't genuine). He said you could tell the difference between those that are truly escaping and those that aren't...

    Oh and fyi, they pass through several countries that are part of the Geneva convention before getting here (some of them). So they could.have seeked asylum there...

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    Default Re: Navy would have role in turning asylum boats around under LNP.

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    They've done it before... Plus 9 times out of 10 the asylum seekers aren't even in aus waters when they send out the signal to the Australian government (I say government as it's both customs and the navy that receive the signal). Before labor came into power the navy would intercept the boat and empty their fuel, leaving them with only enough to go back where they came but not enough to reach aus soil...

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    This sounds ridiculous. Sorry, but I think you need to check your facts or let us know where you got these facts so that we can check it out.

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    Default Re: Navy would have role in turning asylum boats around under LNP.

    It won't change a thing. The ships will be scuttled as the Navy ships arrive forcing assistance and negating the ability for return to country of origin just as happens so often now.
    Doesn't matter whether it's in our waters or not, if one of our ships come alongside a foundering ship they will assist and that means nothing well be different to the way things are now.

    It's all a media spin.
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    Default Navy would have role in turning asylum boats around under LNP.

    People who seek asylum are not only the poor.
    Judging asylum seekers by their clothes/belongings is minimising their plight for asylum and the gravity of their situation.
    People are persecuted for many things. Wealth does not always come into it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smidget3004 View Post
    They get given a place to live and money once they are found to be true asylum seekers. They get free health care, including optical etc. When I lived in Darwin, you avoided going to the shops or any medical appointments on Tuesdays as that was when they all went, or the aboriginals.

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    I live in a town that has a detention centre, the towns people get updates re the happenings of the centre including how many are out there, how many have been or will be processed and released into the town etc, we get invited to meetings and a regular newsletter is distributed.
    It's common knowledge that the detention centre is far from a gaol scenario. Not only do they have everything from tv's, game players nintendos and all that sort of thing including egyptian cotton sheets (they actually went on strike once because they didn't have egyptian cotton sheets so they now do) they are free to roam the large premises as they wish, they aren't locked in their lovely rooms, they have a soccer field, they are taken on regular excursions up the Gibb river rd to see tourist attractions (some locals don't get to venture up there) and they go on day trips to Broome. They also utilise the town swimming pool for a few hours at least 3 days a week (I along with many other mums avoid it at these times as the stares are very uncomfortable). The guards aren't armed at all and there is in fact only 3 guards to about 30 detainees. Some have alot of money on them when they arrive in Australia, in fact it costs them alot of money to get on a boat to come here. They are given a daily allowance whilst in detention. And if they get status they get given a fully furnished house and a bulk payment to get them started and they go straight onto welfare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimberleygal1 View Post
    I live in a town that has a detention centre, the towns people get updates re the happenings of the centre including how many are out there, how many have been or will be processed and released into the town etc, we get invited to meetings and a regular newsletter is distributed.
    It's common knowledge that the detention centre is far from a gaol scenario. Not only do they have everything from tv's, game players nintendos and all that sort of thing including egyptian cotton sheets (they actually went on strike once because they didn't have egyptian cotton sheets so they now do) they are free to roam the large premises as they wish, they aren't locked in their lovely rooms, they have a soccer field, they are taken on regular excursions up the Gibb river rd to see tourist attractions (some locals don't get to venture up there) and they go on day trips to Broome. They also utilise the town swimming pool for a few hours at least 3 days a week (I along with many other mums avoid it at these times as the stares are very uncomfortable). The guards aren't armed at all and there is in fact only 3 guards to about 30 detainees. Some have alot of money on them when they arrive in Australia, in fact it costs them alot of money to get on a boat to come here. They are given a daily allowance whilst in detention. And if they get status they get given a fully furnished house and a bulk payment to get them started and they go straight onto welfare.
    Really how interesting? What detention centre is this?
    I can tell you villawood detention centre is nothing even remotely close to what you are describing.
    I would love to research more about it considering I will be working in this area shortly and what you are describing sounds like a fairy tale.

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    Default Navy would have role in turning asylum boats around under LNP.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kimberleygal1 View Post
    I live in a town that has a detention centre, the towns people get updates re the happenings of the centre including how many are out there, how many have been or will be processed and released into the town etc, we get invited to meetings and a regular newsletter is distributed.
    It's common knowledge that the detention centre is far from a gaol scenario. Not only do they have everything from tv's, game players nintendos and all that sort of thing including egyptian cotton sheets (they actually went on strike once because they didn't have egyptian cotton sheets so they now do) they are free to roam the large premises as they wish, they aren't locked in their lovely rooms, they have a soccer field, they are taken on regular excursions up the Gibb river rd to see tourist attractions (some locals don't get to venture up there) and they go on day trips to Broome. They also utilise the town swimming pool for a few hours at least 3 days a week (I along with many other mums avoid it at these times as the stares are very uncomfortable). The guards aren't armed at all and there is in fact only 3 guards to about 30 detainees. Some have alot of money on them when they arrive in Australia, in fact it costs them alot of money to get on a boat to come here. They are given a daily allowance whilst in detention. And if they get status they get given a fully furnished house and a bulk payment to get them started and they go straight onto welfare.
    Yeah the only similarity between an Immigration Processing Centre and a jail is the fact that they are not free to come and go as they please. The resources and facilities in the IPCs are pretty good.
    I've worked on Christmas Island on and off since 2006 (though not for DIAC or Serco so I'm not just blindly defending an employer) so like KG I'm also going to claim first hand knowledge of this.

    Also maritime law is totally different to territorial law. A ship captain can over ride the prime minister in a maritime safety incident if he chooses. As for Australian ships having 'jurisdiction' to carry out these actions....international waters don't have jurisdiction boundaries.

    FWIW I'm pro-immigration and I think our refugee quote under of UNHCR refugees is abysmally small compared to other developed countries and should be raised significantly.
    However I'm also pro-mandatory detention for unexpected asylum seekers, the two views are not mutually exclusive by any means.

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    Default Navy would have role in turning asylum boats around under LNP.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kimberleygal1 View Post
    I live in a town that has a detention centre, the towns people get updates re the happenings of the centre including how many are out there, how many have been or will be processed and released into the town etc, we get invited to meetings and a regular newsletter is distributed.
    It's common knowledge that the detention centre is far from a gaol scenario. Not only do they have everything from tv's, game players nintendos and all that sort of thing including egyptian cotton sheets (they actually went on strike once because they didn't have egyptian cotton sheets so they now do) they are free to roam the large premises as they wish, they aren't locked in their lovely rooms, they have a soccer field, they are taken on regular excursions up the Gibb river rd to see tourist attractions (some locals don't get to venture up there) and they go on day trips to Broome. They also utilise the town swimming pool for a few hours at least 3 days a week (I along with many other mums avoid it at these times as the stares are very uncomfortable). The guards aren't armed at all and there is in fact only 3 guards to about 30 detainees. Some have alot of money on them when they arrive in Australia, in fact it costs them alot of money to get on a boat to come here. They are given a daily allowance whilst in detention. And if they get status they get given a fully furnished house and a bulk payment to get them started and they go straight onto welfare.
    The Curtin Detention Centre (the one you are talking about above) is far from what you describe.

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