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    Quote Originally Posted by Jellyfishie View Post
    I suspect you may be thinking of Norway? They have one of (if not the) highest tax rates in the world. They are extremely socialist and there are many social benefits (paid parental leave for 12 months+, unemployment paid at your previous salary rate for a substantial amount of time if you lose your job, free tertiary education etc)

    However, being socialist, they do not have the 'welfare mentality' which is present within a subsection of the population in many other western countries. Their collective is not that it is their 'right' to get payments, these payments are a safety net for hard times. At all other times they expect to be productive members of society who contribute through employment etc.

    Even our 'left' is a lot more 'right' than theirs, (ie our left is still pretty conservative compared to other socialist countries)
    See I would partially agree they don't have the welfare mentality, but more an automatic thing that citizens receive the help they need. So I highly suspect (obviously I've never lived there) that there wouldn't be this stigma of receiving aid. Less people would be complaining about 'their taxes' bc the country is inherently socialist - everyone is looked after but also expected to contribute.

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    Quote Originally Posted by headoverfeet View Post
    Very true but I would argue that should you receive medicare for certain private hospital choices? I think these PHI and medicare levy's have just increased the cost of PHI. Look at what happened to the charges made by private OB's when it kicked in! I think that is a topic for a different thread though
    I remember when Howard put huge amounts into the private system to prop it up in the 90's. Fees were already through the roof, people were dropping like flies out of PHI so he had to do something.

    I don't doubt fees have continued to increase, but that was happening 20 years ago.

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    Sweden's marginal tax rate is 56.6%. They are highest in the world I believe!

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    http://m.guardian.co.uk/money/2008/n...burden-welfare

    Interesting.

    I believe the reason people in Australia feel duped paying tax is because they aren't happy with the way they're being spent, because politicians spend too long slinging sh!t and not actually coming up with any new policies or ways to spend tax $$ (TA, I'm looking at you.)

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    Just quietly, I am considering moving to Sweden. Just gotta convince DP she wants to live in her homeland.

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    Love this from the article

    "Overall though, he says, 'Swedes are very attached to the idea of the state as the People's Home. Everyone in society is under the same roof, everyone will be protected. Sweden is now a more diverse society, but this idea still persists.'"

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    Default Abbott to axe school bonus if he gets in

    Totally

    No wonder why they're so damn happy!

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    Haven't read the whole thread (plus don't have a school aged child) but I really think they need to keep it if SOME schools insist on having high price items on their 'book lists'.

    i just found out a family member who's son started public high school was required to purchase a compulsory iPad- she was fine with that as he had one purchased less then a year ago, but no, the one he had was a 16gb and the school informed her she needed to purchase a 32gb!!! I was gob smacked!!!

    Sure the school is in a reasonably affluent area but its a large school so not all families are from the affluent areas, not to mention those in the affluent areas who are already doing it tough!!

    Private school I could somewhat understand but a public school???? I don't get it!

    That's my rrant

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainbow road View Post
    Totally

    No wonder why they're so damn happy!
    And all the s.ex they have

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaliyahsmummy View Post
    Haven't read the whole thread (plus don't have a school aged child) but I really think they need to keep it if SOME schools insist on having high price items on their 'book lists'.

    i just found out a family member who's son started public high school was required to purchase a compulsory iPad- she was fine with that as he had one purchased less then a year ago, but no, the one he had was a 16gb and the school informed her she needed to purchase a 32gb!!! I was gob smacked!!!

    Sure the school is in a reasonably affluent area but its a large school so not all families are from the affluent areas, not to mention those in the affluent areas who are already doing it tough!!

    Private school I could somewhat understand but a public school???? I don't get it!

    That's my rrant
    That's disgraceful for a public school. If the school doesn't have the funds to pay for equipment like that then they shouldn't make it compulsary. They need to lower their own expectations. They can't expect to be on the forefront of technology, a super cool school, if they have no money. Go back to paper and pen.

    What about the poor kids whose parents can't afford an I-pad? They must feel like crap.

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