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    Default Abbott to axe school bonus if he gets in

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    I think he will get in. Labor traditionally run bad campaigns and are not good at selling their accomplishments. I am definitely working on the assumption after September we'll go Liberal federally.
    I hate to say it but I think you are right I don't know how ill stand seeing his face on the news every night esp with Shrek as his deputy... I think it will be time for us to go Os for a year or so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shelle65 View Post
    This is the most bizarre thing I've ever read on bubhub. I went to uni and studied my ar*e off (ie little hanging out with friends) and racked up a huge HECS debt. I work full time, am nowhere near paying 50% tax and probably never will be.
    lol same. 4 years at uni and unless I got to the top of my trade I would never pay 45%. I'm amused that some think that uni always equals big money. I think it really highlights the point many of us have made that low and middle income earners can not only be working as opposed to 'dole bludging', but can be specialised with degrees and still not be rich.

    What I find interesting with the US system is their welfare is not even remotely supportive of struggling families and has been this way for years..... yet they are in still in dire straits financially. So obviously the issue wasn't the welfare system lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by shelle65 View Post
    This is the most bizarre thing I've ever read on bubhub. I went to uni and studied my ar*e off (ie little hanging out with friends) and racked up a huge HECS debt. I work full time, am nowhere near paying 50% tax and probably never will be.
    My bestie did almost 10 years of uni (and managed to save from her part time job to pay for post grad stuff) to be a specialist psychologist and she's on an ok wicket now but certainly not the highest tax bracket. Another friend took over his fathers already very well established business 10 years ago and is now 31 and a multi millionaire, no uni. Studying hard and long usually gets you to the career you want, does not mean that particular career is going to make you lots of money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HarvestMoon View Post
    You do relise schools don't cover the costs of uniforms, stationery, books, excursions, music, swimming lessons (dependant upon the school)., etc..
    Providing these funds to the parents of school children might be the difference between a child having essential supplies and being able to participate in something they enjoy that family finances would otherwise not permit.
    Not everyone has the capability to earn sufficient money to survive and some people need assitance through bonuses and welfare. If we take this away from people, where do you think it leaves their children?

    Please stop gloating about the American welfare system. It's far from anything to be remotely proud off. I don't see how it has been a success when you've got more people in the US homeless and living in extreme poverty than here.


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    Thats where I thought the money could go back into the schools to provide more support to the schools which the government is responsible for.

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    i recieved this bonus for the first time this year. i never claimed in at tax time before. although it helped me greatly i dont expect this money. i have 4 kids in school now and until recently i was a single parent. i managed to put my other kids through school without the bonus and im sure i can again. i dont vote for anyone as none of them deserve my vote but this wouldnt change my opinion if I was willing to vote

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    Default Abbott to axe school bonus if he gets in

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    I might be coming into this thread a little late and apologies if this has already been said but why on earth should we expect the government to give us money each year to help with the cost of school.
    Call me crazy, but isnt schooling and the associated costs just another normal and expected cost of having children?
    Id spend more money per year on nappies for my daughter when she was an infant then i would pay to start her up at school. Should i also be getting a payment from the government to help with this?
    In my opinion, schooling costs are just another normal cost of having children. Sure i would imagine that it would be difficult for some families on a low income to be able to afford but that doesnt mean i support a blanket payment across the board for all families.
    Perhaps a rebate on school expenses would be more appropriate to those families who are on income support payments and the rest of us could just maybe suck it up a little bit and get on with the job of providing for our children without expecting the government to pay for everything.
    I can almost guarantee that those people who claim they rely on that money to start htei kids in school would actually find a way to come up with the money if it wasnt given as a free hand out.
    Well said!

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    Abbott also plans to make child care more affordable and increase the government parental leave which is great

    I don't think that the school bonus should only apply to the lower income earners. It should apply to everyone so I think it should be axed to save money.

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    Abbott also plans to make child care more affordable and increase the government parental leave which is great

    I don't think that the school bonus should only apply to the lower income earners. It should apply to everyone so I think it should be axed to save money.
    Didn't he want to increase PPL to 26 weeks (from memory)? I'm all for PPL but I wonder what he will have to cut to afford it.

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    So bc it's means tested no one should get it? People are saying plan ahead and pay for your own kids... so why on earth if a single mum should be able to afford it, shouldn't someone on 150+k?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clementine Grace View Post
    Didn't he want to increase PPL to 26 weeks (from memory)? I'm all for PPL but I wonder what he will have to cut to afford it.
    Not that I don't support that, I do. But clearly this isn't about saving the country money. It's about redirecting to middle and high income earners (given 2 people working are going to be more likely to be middle to high than low).

    Under the argument you know what kids cost, prepare for it, shouldn't those on PPL plan ahead instead of having the tax payer fund them?? and again I support PPL all the way, I'm just pointing out the inconsistencies here. It seems this isn't about saving tax payers, but wanting the money to go to the rich and not the poor.

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