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    I think people are using a very far out example to prove their point on respecting other people. It doesn't fly with me.

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    Default Nurse in at Sunrise- sydney

    All these people that keep referring to the women dangling both boobies at once and waving or flapping them around or whatever...really? Have you seen it happen so often that it concerns you enough to make an objection about public breastfeeding?

    I'm sorry, but I don't believe it happens that often. And even if you think it does, get over it. There are far more important things in life to object about.

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    Default Nurse in at Sunrise- sydney

    I have no issue with women breast feeding in public. I fed my daughter for 6 months privately because I was embarrassed about feeding in public so when I had my son I decided I needed to get comfortable with it or I was going to be socially isolate again. I successfully fed him for 20 months so I think it made a difference being able to feed in public.

    I have encountered one 'extreme breast feeder' and it did make me feel uncomfortable. We were at the library for rhyme time, everyone sitting in a circle. One mother sat down, pulled up her top, undid her bra and took both breasts out and rested back on her arms. Her toddler could come and go as she pleased but in that half hour she only nibbled twice. To me this wasn't breast feeding. Breast feeding is attaching, feeding, putting yourself away when finished. If your baby wants more then again attach, feed, put yourself away. It made me feel uncomfortable and I felt it wasn't appropriate.

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    Default Re: Nurse in at Sunrise- sydney

    Oh wow flip flop. That's..... Really full on.

    I don't really think I'd call that breastfeeding at all. I wonder where the law stands on asking a woman to put her top back on if a child isn't actually even feeding.




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    Default Nurse in at Sunrise- sydney

    Yes that's my point boobycino. It's a non issue if a baby is actually feeding, I don't care how much is showing/not showing but leaving things open for an all you can eat buffet crossed over to not actually breast feeding but sitting there topless.

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    Default Re: Nurse in at Sunrise- sydney

    Although that is a valid point and I agree... It is not what this has stemmed from. This has all started because a woman was feeding her daughter at the pool. If there was any way they could have argued that she was letting fly they would have to amplify their case. But they are simply arguing that she shouldnt have been feeding there at all or should have covered up ie: with a cover. The amount of FB comments I have seen stating how wrong it is seeing bf mums in public and to cover up or go home/dnt be out shopping etc disgusts me

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    ^^^ exactly. That situation of a woman taking her top off and a toddler have a couple of sucks and that's it but leaving their top and bra off - personally I don't think that is really "breastfeeding in public" that's something else entirely.

    People keep saying women need to be discreet, respectful, modest, classy (koshie and Facebook) . But if there is a baby (or toddler) attached or attaching to a breast, and the other is packed away (unless you've forgotten - I'm guilty of getting a phone call while out to coffee as I was switching sides and in that distraction forgot to pack the first away... But my friend delicately pointed it out whoops) then blanket or not, special nursing top or not etc etc there's nothing indiscreet about that. It's just feeding a baby/toddler. It's no more indiscreet than bottle feeding. Or an adult human drinking cow expressed boob milk in public - Ew.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennybaby View Post
    Let me make this very clear. I am not against breast feeding in public. You gotta do what you gotta do. Your baby is hungry and won't feed under a cloth then you don't use one full stop. I don't care either way what you do. But I do care what I do and I know that I am the type of person that will cover up just because that's who I am. Doesn't make me wrong or right. It just is.

    I think the thing to remember is that you haven't been there yet. You don't know what you will be like yet. Of course first time Mum's feel the need to cover up and some are lucky enough to have babies that allow this. By the time you are on your third or fourth child the majority of mothers feel more comfortable with the idea of feeding, are way too busy to even care about covering up and for a lot of other reasons are more likely to feel comfortable breastfeeding without a cover. You are exactly right, you will do what you have to do, but don't be too hasty in saying you will or will not do anything. The best idea going into parenting is to have no expectations, that way you won't be disappointed.

    No offence but you don't know me so you can't say how I may or may not be. I on the other hand know myself very well and yes, I haven't breast fed as yet but I can tell you that I stand by how I said I would be like. I will always be aware of my surroundings and I will always cover up because that's just how I am and how I was raised. If you don't want to cover up then don't, I really don't care! But don't tell me that I won't because I know that I will.

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    I can't believe this is still going on. Koshie isn't going to apologise for his comments. I just don't understand why people can't accept that people have views different to their own. The law is on the breastfeeding mums side, which is fantastic, but just because it's the law doesn't mean everyone has to agree or feel comfortable with it.

    Regarding the issue at the pool. Yes that was unfortunate, but the staff at the pool have apologised to her. Also, were any of you there? I think unless you know 100% what happened and what exactly was said, then maybe it should be left alone.

    I think that a really logical step forward to making it more accepted is for breastfeeding awareness to be included in staff training for ALL businesses. Every time stories like this come up in the media, it is due to a staff member making comment, not because "Fred or Sue were giving me death stares from the next table".

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    Quote Originally Posted by jellybub View Post
    I can't believe this is still going on. Koshie isn't going to apologise for his comments. I just don't understand why people can't accept that people have views different to their own. The law is on the breastfeeding mums side, which is fantastic, but just because it's the law doesn't mean everyone has to agree or feel comfortable with it.

    Regarding the issue at the pool. Yes that was unfortunate, but the staff at the pool have apologised to her. Also, were any of you there? I think unless you know 100% what happened and what exactly was said, then maybe it should be left alone.

    I think that a really logical step forward to making it more accepted is for breastfeeding awareness to be included in staff training for ALL businesses. Every time stories like this come up in the media, it is due to a staff member making comment, not because "Fred or Sue were giving me death stares from the next table".
    I agree with a lot of what you say here, but not the BF awareness training part.

    I think it would be useful for businesses where mums/ babies are likely to be (e.g., restaurants, cafes, parks, etc.) but not for all businesses - and I only say that because for many businesses it just wouldn't be something they would be likely to encounter, and there are so many pieces of legislation out there that you can't cover everything as part of a staff induction.

    I know this won't be a popular view, but I also feel a bit sorry for the staff member who asked the woman to move/ cover up. Yes, he/she was in the wrong, but it was probably someone who had no idea, and to see how this has now gone international was probably a huge shock for the employee in question.

    I guess the good thing about it is that more people are now aware of the laws. So many people I spoke to about this had no idea you couldn't ask someone to move/ cover up if they were breastfeeding.


 

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