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    Default Newbie questions - is thsi good? (eggnumber)

    Hi there,

    I have just turned 43 and am about to start IVF treatment as a single woman. It's all still very confusing for me, and a lot of the information is going in one ear and out the other I think!

    As part of the pre-screening I had an ultrasound which showed I had 12 eggs - which the specialist says is excellent for my age. But other things I've read is that 15 is needed for optimum results, and I've seen posts here with people with 30! As I'm about the start the hormone treatment I'm also unsure whether that is supposed to increase the number of eggs, or just their quality?

    Can someone clear this up for me? Thanks!

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    Welcome Nettlestar. And congratulations on deciding to do this as a single. If I hadn't been lucky enough to meet my DH a couple of years ago I would have absolutely done what you are doing. I hope your journey is a brief one and you have good support from family and friends. Of course everyone here on BH can be a huge source of support, advice and understanding. Those egg numbers are great. On average it is said that you are very lucky if half the number collected fertilise, and half of them can be frozen, less 1 for transfer. Try not to get too caught up with numbers. Each woman responds differently. So often we hear stories of a lot of eggs collected and none fertilise. Or very few eggs are collected and only 1 is viable. And that 1 turns into a BFP!

    Different protocols use different hormones but generally your injections leading up to EPU are to stimulate the follicles to produce more eggs, then injections to stop you ovulating while those eggies grow, then an injection to stimulate ovulation just before EPU. None of these are used for egg quality. If quality is an issue there are other supplements and meds the FS can prescribe to try and improve this. Our eggs are thought to mature over about a 3 month period so it it is advised to start these early. Many FS's don't believe you can improve egg quality so won't help with any suggestions. Honestly though you hear too many stories of women trying different things and being successful, for it just to be coincidence. I think most of us try whatever we can with the philosophy that it can't hurt and it could help!

    You should join the ladies on the 40+ thread. They are the experts on this stuff and can advise you of the right questions to ask, what tests to get and what supplements and meds to take. Good luck and look forward to hearing how you're going xx

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    Default Newbie questions - is thsi good? (eggnumber)

    You might well find that if you google single mother by choice Australia you will find some really helpful information and a local group of women who are going through the same journey. I have found it really great to catch up with the SMCs in Melbourne. They know all there is to know about the process.

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    Default Re: Newbie questions - is thsi good? (eggnumber)

    If it's any help to you I was 40-41 when I had ivf treatment. The highest number of eggs we ever got was 8, our first round was 3 (1 fertilised), 2nd round 8 (0 fertilised), 3rd round 7 (3 fertilised), 4th round 6 (2 fertilised and finally pregnant!). I'm now a mummy to a 9 week old boy

    It's more about quality then quantity

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    Hi nettlestar,

    Good luck with your cycle!

    As the other ladies have said do not get caught up with the numbers. More eggs does not equal better quality. Quality is what you are after not numbers. I always got a good number of eggs but they were of poor quality. I can't tell you how many times I've seen ladies who only got two or three eggs and these went on to become viable pregnancies.

    As for egg quality unfortunately it can't be measured and really there is little that can be done to improve quality. I tried every supplement, natural remedy, chinese medicine, acupuncture. You name it I tried it.

    At this stage though there is nothing to suggest that your eggs aren't of good quality. I think 12 eggs is a good number. Will they try and grow them to blastocysts? Just prepare yourself for a drop of rate though, when I first started IVF I wasn't prepared. On day 4 I had 7 embryo's progessing nicely but by day 5 only one made it to blasty. But hey it only takes one!

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    Thanks so much everyone, I feel a little less confused now. I've started taking Blackmore Conceive Well Gold, which it seems is all you can really do to increase the 'quality' side at all (though as I already take a multivitamin, and my bad habit of putting salt on everything should mean I'm already ok for Iodine *lol*), and start injections in a couple of weeks!

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    Hi nettlestar, welcome to the wild and woolly world of ivf - i hope your journey is short and sweet with the happiest of endings! yes as the others have said its definitely quality over quantity...please try not to agonise over all the stats, 'optimum' numbers, day 2, 3 or 5 day transfers etc....honestly it really does only take one. I was a poor responder only getting about 2 or 3 eggs but luckily each cycle i always had at least one embryo for transfer - i fell pregnant 5 times (but m/c) before i found a great Dr with the right treatment for my immune issues, then fell pg again on my last cycle, only 1 viable egg turned into our beautiful DD.
    i was also on DHEA for a long time and did add luveris and growth hormone to the mix on this last cycle. unfortunately ivf really is a bit of trial and error to some extent but at the same time my advice would be to research/read heaps and push for your FS to try new things as some FS's seem happy to try the same protocols over and over, happily taking our money each time!! After 7 years of ivf that is something in hindsight i wish i had been more assertive for more comprehensive testing at the start of ivf and the early miscarriages. But then i look back and think if i hadn't gone through all i did i would not have my miracle bub with me now.

    Feel free to ask me any ?'s, PM me if you like. All the very best for your cycle...fingers crossed it will be first time lucky for you

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    Hi nettlestar. I'm 39 and we only got 4 eggs from my first cycle and 3 fertilised. We transfered 2 and we now have twins on board. Definitely don't get hung up on the number


 

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