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    Quote Originally Posted by DesperatelySeekingSleep View Post
    My brother was and still is one of these kids. He would chase after me with knives for no reason other than it was fun. wouldn't go to school. Kick, hit, punch, swear at and anything else he wanted to do to anyone. His response at any adult trying to stop him from hitting them. "if you touch me I will call the police", "you can't hit me back so suck sh!t", "I can do whatever I want and you can't stop me", "what ya gonna do about, nothing".

    One set of rules for me and a different brother(legal, illegal or otherwise), a whole set of other rules for the others (different dad). The one that never got smacked still had no respect for others or the consequences of his actions.

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    I don't know your brothers situation, however, I don't think smacking is a suitable consequence for a child like that anyway. I would be getting serious help if my child was chasing their sibilings with a knife and taking every possible luxury away from them. That's crazy!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarylee View Post
    I don't know your brothers situation, however, I don't think smacking is a suitable consequence for a child like that anyway. I would be getting serious help if my child was chasing their sibilings with a knife and taking every possible luxury away from them. That's crazy!!!!
    He knew he could do whatever he wanted BECAUSE he was told no one could smack him. He even said so.

    its not his fault he was chasing me with knives. I should not have told him he wasn't allowed to play with them. It was my fault. Just ask him. That's why I got in trouble for it. Cos I started it. Whole other story..

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesperatelySeekingSleep View Post
    He knew he could do whatever he wanted BECAUSE he was told no one could smack him. He even said so.

    its not his fault he was chasing me with knives. I should not have told him he wasn't allowed to play with them. It was my fault. Just ask him. That's why I got in trouble for it. Cos I started it. Whole other story..

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    Sounds like there was a heck of a lot more wrong than just not smacking. Just because a parent doesn't smack doesn't mean they don't discipline. I get tired of the assumption that kids who don't get smacked are unruly yet kids who are smacked are well- behaved. There will always be examples of both.
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    Was there other consequences put in place like taking away luxuries or not allowing him to attend fun outings with his siblings etc?

    Wow, sounds like he needed some professional help of some kind. Not your fault at all...... big hugs

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    Default Smacking your child

    It was some years ago now I can't remember the exact year though sorry, it was investigated by the local police and school councillors, dad was never charged but it definitely took its toll on our family,
    I guess that the point of my post is it puts a weapon in the hands of children who don't fully understand the consequences of what tall stories they tell.
    Do we take the responsibility of knowing right from wrong from parents and put it in the hands of children??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roopee View Post
    I didn't change the parameters- i elaborated on my orignal post. There IS a difference. I can see your point, I can even see here you're going with it but ZI just can't agree with it sorry.
    And I think I might just agree to disagree with you here because it appears I have met my match in stubborn in you and it's quite clear that neither one of us is going to back down.
    Yeh I am a little bit of a bulldog someytimes LOL I understand that you and a lot of others don't agree. And sometimes it's so much better to agree and disagree and move on than going on and on around in circles. That's why I walked away a bit today (except this morning) 'cos I knew I would just keep going with it around and around cos I seem to not be able to let it go. Thank you for being the bigger person in this debate

    Blissed out - From what I remember of what a read...would have been about 2 or 3 smacking debates ago that I read it (LOL) that the whole point of the law in NZ was to address child abuse. It actually hasn't. As far as I'm aware the abuse rates remain the same (don't know what they'd be now) I don't remember what the youth crime rate showed, but it wasn't surprising if I recall. I can't be F'd looking now cos I'm lazy and I'm waiting for dh to come home with whipped cream and nuts so we can make sundaes LOL (Yeh ok I'm a lazy so and so...but oh well my dh isnt home much so I'm relishing being spoilt right now)


 

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