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    Yeah, I don't even know what to say to someone hitting a baby.

    I don't see what it could possibly achieve at that age, other than fear and confusion.

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    Default Smacking your child

    I'm in the middle here. I think a swat-style spanking that isn't "painful" is acceptable in some contexts.

    Anything having to do with a knee jerk reaction though isn't really about discipline, it's about the parents frustration. I'm not saying its always abuse but it can be and in any case if frustration is the cause then it's not actually teaching the child anything.

    I'm really against any kind only use of a belt etc. Sure older generations were disciplined in such ways and no with historical sensitivity I would not always call that abuse either.

    In this day and age however, I think in a lot of cases it's lazy parenting at best and abuse at worst.

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    Havent read the replies but I dont think there is anything wrong with it, that said we dont spank I jsut cant do it I have before on the bottom but I felt horrible after and wondered how my kids felt the person they love to death hurting them.

    I was spanked as a child and I learned real quick what not to do and if mom said no that was it. I was a very respectful child and felt bad even thinking bad things about my mom. I also learned she is super mom when I talked back in the back seat and while driving she smacked me without even taking her eyes off the road lol

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    Default Smacking your child

    Quote Originally Posted by Lovemyfam View Post
    Havent read the replies but I dont think there is anything wrong with it, that said we dont spank I jsut cant do it I have before on the bottom but I felt horrible after and wondered how my kids felt the person they love to death hurting them.

    I was spanked as a child and I learned real quick what not to do and if mom said no that was it. I was a very respectful child and felt bad even thinking bad things about my mom. I also learned she is super mom when I talked back in the back seat and while driving she smacked me without even taking her eyes off the road lol
    See this is an example of why I think hitting does not work, if it did you would not have talked back to your mum in the car as surely you knew she would hit you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elijahs Mum View Post
    A genuine question - I could never "hit/tap/put 2 fingers" on my child under any circumstance, especially a baby at 11 months? Do you feel horrible or guilty afterwards?
    Of course I do. A 2 finger tap on the hand comes after I have growled at least 5 times, moved her away just as often, slapped my own hand at least 3 or 4 times, slapped whatever she is playing with about 5 times ie the heater. All while she laughs at me thinking it is a game. It is not an actual smack. It is a tap no harder than that to brush a fly off yourself and not even hard enough to kill a mosquito. It doesn't matter what tone of voice I use she still laughs. A tap on the hand and she stops what she is doing.

    I don't condone in any way smacking a child, toddler etc hard enough to sting your own hand, or to cause harm. I have seem someone actually slap a 6 week old baby. That is not on.

    Exactly how do you keep an 11 month old crawler away from such objects that can't be barricaded off and no other place to play other than that room, while creating more than enough distractions that don't work?


    ETA. My 7 year old no longer gets a smack. Stopped getting them when we she was old enough to be able to communicate with and explain why you can't play with dangerous things.

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    When my DS started crawling i just removed him and redirected his attention to something else every time he went to touch things he wasn't supposed to (the water cooler was his main target!) and said "not for Elijah to touch" he tried maybe once or twice a day for about a week then never went near it again ( at 18 months he would point to it and say "bubba no touch"!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roopee View Post
    What? It's not 'The-end'. Geez........it's a contentious parenting issue so there will ALWAYS be more than one side. You missed my point. I said that BECAUSE we wouldn't hit an adult to get a point across is WHY I wouldn't hit a KID to get a point across. There ARE other things I would do but hitting them isn't one of them.
    No I got your point. You said that you wouldn't hit an adult because it'd be assault. Want me to quote you?

    Is it ok the smack a your spouse/mother/father/brother/sister/friend? No? That's called assault.
    Kids deserve the same respect.
    And I'm saying that there's a lot of things you wouldn't do to an adult/child that you wouldn't do to the other. Therefore making your point moot. You have now adjusted your point because you realised it was weak, that's fine, but please don't make out that I missed your point. I got it thanks. I know what assult is, I know what stealing is, I know what deprivation of liberty is etc etc. And yet we confiscate toys (steal) restrain out children (deprivation of liberty) touch them without their permission, which could also be assult too. THAT'S my point. And yes it IS the end because you can't say I'm wrong. You can do some things to children that you can't do to adults (and vice versa) right? Yes you can...everyone knows this. So I say...time to make a different point...bring out some research or something but don't say "Oh you wouldn't hit an adult cos that'd be assault" because that point is weak - the end!

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    In america when they taser a criminal it is for COMPLIANCE as well as restaining them. It is called pain compliance. The police here can also use wrist locks and things as pain compliance also.

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    Default Re: Smacking your child

    Quote Originally Posted by Elijahs Mum View Post
    When my DS started crawling i just removed him and redirected his attention to something else every time he went to touch things he wasn't supposed to (the water cooler was his main target!) and said "not for Elijah to touch" he tried maybe once or twice a day for about a week then never went near it again ( at 18 months he would point to it and say "bubba no touch"!)
    I have tried this tactic at least 10 times a day at times. Doesn't work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deserama View Post
    In america when they taser a criminal it is for COMPLIANCE as well as restaining them. It is called pain compliance. The police here can also use wrist locks and things as pain compliance also.
    Yeah, in America they also kill people for their crimes, such a upstanding example of morality.

    Can you supply evidence to back up that Australian police use wrist locks as corporal punishment?


 

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