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    Quote Originally Posted by Roopee View Post
    Taking a possession, picking up a screaming kid doesn't inflict physical pain, is not designed to physically hurt them though, Smacking IS.
    I don't think it's illogical at all? it's not ok to intentionally hit/hurt someone......no matter their age. T
    o ME and for MY family? Smacking isn't a tool we will ever use.
    The point is that you wouln't do any of those things to an adult right?? So that argument doesn't stand. I have no problem with people not wanting to smack for whatever reason but bringing up the comparison as to what you'd do to an adult and what you'd do a child. You do lots of things to a child that you wouldn't an adult and vice versa - the end!

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    Adults face consequences in all aspects of life. We face them, and (hopefully) learn from them. None of these include inflicting pain on us.

    Children also need consquences. It's up to us as parents to provide them so that they can learn from them. I don't believe that these consequences should include inflicting pain either.

    So in saying that I still stand by the statement, you wouldn't hit an adult, so why hit a child....! It's illegal to assult an adult by trying to get a point across or give them a consequence for their actions, so why should it be legal to do that to a child?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarylee View Post
    Adults face consequences in all aspects of life. We face them, and (hopefully) learn from them. None of these include inflicting pain on us.

    Children also need consquences. It's up to us as parents to provide them so that they can learn from them. I don't believe that these consequences should include inflicting pain either.

    So in saying that I still stand by the statement, you wouldn't hit an adult, so why hit a child....! It's illegal to assult an adult by trying to get a point across or give them a consequence for their actions, so why should it be legal to do that to a child?
    This!

    and to add to it, society does confiscate adults belongings, puts adults in time out, grounds them... but we no longer have public floggings for adults, or any kind of corporal punishment for adults, the same should apply to children.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Girl X View Post
    I guess this is the point at which people often say that they smack to startle rather than to inflict pain, however. And I do agree that there is definitely a difference.
    But it doesn't matter what the person smacking intends. A smack hurts and often inflicts pain so I don't agree that why the person smack is relevant.
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    Default Re: Smacking your child

    All I have to say is stun guns and tasers

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    So are we viewing this as a moral issue or a legal one? And, if we look at it solely as a legal one then does that mean that smacking is 'okay' in cultures where corporal punishment still features in the justice system?

    I'm not being deliberately obtuse here, by the way, but rather trying to separate out some of the arguments.

    If people are saying they believe that it's morally wrong for one person to hit out at another, regardless of force or size, then that is one issue.

    If people are saying that we should do unto children what we do unto adults then that's a separate issue.

    Likewise if we say that our justice system has moved on to no longer recognise that as appropriate discipline for adults, and therefore parents should look to that as a moral guideline when disciplining their children. A separate issue again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    But it doesn't matter what the person smacking intends. A smack hurts and often inflicts pain so I don't agree that why the person smack is relevant.
    That comment was in response to someone saying that a smack was 'worse' (and I am paraphrasing) because it was 'designed to inflict pain' whereas other forms of punishment weren't.

    I was making the point that people who do smack may argue that they 'tap' or 'startle' their child, but that they do not intend to inflict pain, and nor do they achieve that.

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    For me it's a moral thing and I support abolishing corporal punishment in all countries.

    Quote Originally Posted by DesperatelySeekingSleep View Post
    All I have to say is stun guns and tasers
    They aren't used as punishment, they are used to aid in restraining people, I have the physical capacity to not have to taser my kids to restrain them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deserama View Post
    The point is that you wouln't do any of those things to an adult right?? So that argument doesn't stand. I have no problem with people not wanting to smack for whatever reason but bringing up the comparison as to what you'd do to an adult and what you'd do a child. You do lots of things to a child that you wouldn't an adult and vice versa - the end!
    What? It's not 'The-end'. Geez........it's a contentious parenting issue so there will ALWAYS be more than one side. You missed my point. I said that BECAUSE we wouldn't hit an adult to get a point across is WHY I wouldn't hit a KID to get a point across. There ARE other things I would do but hitting them isn't one of them.

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    Default Re: Smacking your child

    Quote Originally Posted by BlissedOut View Post
    For me it's a moral thing and I support abolishing corporal punishment in all countries.



    They aren't used as punishment, they are used to aid in restraining people, I have the physical capacity to not have to taser my kids to restrain them.
    Put your hands up. Get down on the ground. if you don't get down on the ground (aka if you don't do as your told) I will use a taser (aka smack you). With little kids it is policing, just on a smaller scale.

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