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    Quote Originally Posted by lillytheo View Post
    Why do we have to work? Because we don't get one cent of assistance from the government, we pay full cost for everything, no rent assistance, no utilities assistance, no health care card, nothing, because we want to put a roof over our children's head and hopefully one day own our own home so we have something to leave our children when we die, so that we can give them the best chance at a good education & perhaps they will be in a better position when they are adults, we want to give them the best we possibly can and we understand to do that we have to work hard, pay our taxes, pay for people who bludge (and people who fall on tough times) so that once everyone else has dipped into our wages and taken their bit of our hard earned money we can have enough left over to do the best for our kids and hey hopefully we'll set a good example that hard work and persistence pays off in life and our children won't fall into the "welfare trap".

    Why should Australian workers pay for the fact someone decided to have children and that a relationship didn't work out?

    I also resent paying for those that keep having child after child knowing they can't support them. Lots of us don't or have a limit on the number of children we have because that is all we can support.
    I sure hope you never end up a single parent and need assistance. Do you really think that all single parents had children, expecting that they would end up single and claiming parenting payments? In the case of the majority, NO!

    Your tax money goes into funding a hell of a lot more than centrelink payments. You know those roads that you travel on? They're paid for by tax dollars. You know that school your children attend (or will), tax dollars paid for a fair chunk of it (even private schools get government funding). You know the playground that you take your kids to? Most likely paid for by tax dollars.... The list is endless, so don't you dare start ranting about your hard earned tax dollars paying for single parent families to live. EVERYONE benefits from paid taxes every single day, the difference is, most of the single mums are grateful for the assistance that they receive.

    ...and no, I'm not a single parent, I just think that all families should have the right to put food on their tables and all families should have the right to be able to stay home during the most important years of their children's lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benji View Post

    if a single mum can stay at home, why would a middle class partnered mum 'have' to return to work? I don't understand?
    This is the post I was referring to.

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    Default Push to increase inadequate dole rejected.

    Quote Originally Posted by lillytheo View Post
    Why do we have to work? Because we don't get one cent of assistance from the government, we pay full cost for everything, no rent assistance, no utilities assistance, no health care card, nothing, because we want to put a roof over our children's head and hopefully one day own our own home so we have something to leave our children when we die, so that we can give them the best chance at a good education & perhaps they will be in a better position when they are adults, we want to give them the best we possibly can and we understand to do that we have to work hard, pay our taxes, pay for people who bludge (and people who fall on tough times) so that once everyone else has dipped into our wages and taken their bit of our hard earned money we can have enough left over to do the best for our kids and hey hopefully we'll set a good example that hard work and persistence pays off in life and our children won't fall into the "welfare trap".

    Why should Australian workers pay for the fact someone decided to have children and that a relationship didn't work out?

    I also resent paying for those that keep having child after child knowing they can't support them. Lots of us don't or have a limit on the number of children we have because that is all we can support.
    So you don't get child care rebate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by redlipsandpearls View Post
    I sure hope you never end up a single parent and need assistance. Do you really think that all single parents had children, expecting that they would end up single and claiming parenting payments? In the case of the majority, NO!

    Your tax money goes into funding a hell of a lot more than centrelink payments. You know those roads that you travel on? They're paid for by tax dollars. You know that school your children attend (or will), tax dollars paid for a fair chunk of it (even private schools get government funding). You know the playground that you take your kids to? Most likely paid for by tax dollars.... The list is endless, so don't you dare start ranting about your hard earned tax dollars paying for single parent families to live. EVERYONE benefits from paid taxes every single day, the difference is, most of the single mums are grateful for the assistance that they receive.

    ...and no, I'm not a single parent, I just think that all families should have the right to put food on their tables and all families should have the right to be able to stay home during the most important years of their children's lives.
    So how many years is this? The government lets people stay home 6 years if your partnered and 8 if single do they need more time in your opinion? If so why

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    Who said that? everyone is saying it's fair to expect all SAHP's to look at doing something with themselves after the youngest is in school. many are pointing out the barriers to why some struggle to make that happen.
    Benji

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    Quote Originally Posted by kw123 View Post
    This is the post I was referring to.
    I think you misunderstood the point. benji was saying that if it's such good money that single mums want to stay home forever, why are partnered couples on a good income struggling and the mum has to return to work? meaning that in fact SPP is crap money and if married couples are struggling on one income of 70k then single mums must really be struggling and therefore it isn't this blessed life on payments at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kw123 View Post
    This is the post I was referring to.
    I know this, and have not a clue what your post has to do with it? Your post implies you returned to work to set a good example for your children and your husband earns too much to qualify for benefits. If people on single parenting payments have a choice to stay at home and live in poverty, which was implied in the post to which I was referring, then IMO middle class partnered mums also have this choice.

    I don't agree that single mums always have a choice between work or not work (poverty) - some have a long wait for access to child care, some have to work because the rent in their town is too expensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delirium View Post
    I think you misunderstood the point. benji was saying that if it's such good money that single mums want to stay home forever, why are partnered couples on a good income struggling and the mum has to return to work? meaning that in fact SPP is crap money and if married couples are struggling on one income of 70k then single mums must really be struggling and therefore it isn't this blessed life on payments at all.
    Fair point - I did misunderstand the post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benji View Post
    I know this, and have not a clue what your post has to do with it? Your post implies you returned to work to set a good example for your children and your husband earns too much to qualify for benefits. If people on single parenting payments have a choice to stay at home and live in poverty, which was implied in the post to which I was referring, then IMO middle class partnered mums also have this choice.

    I don't agree that single mums always have a choice between work or not work (poverty) - some have a long wait for access to child care, some have to work because the rent in their town is too expensive.
    Yep I agree I misunderstood your post, sorry.

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