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    Quote Originally Posted by Marepoppin View Post
    Your friend is a reckless moron. Unvaxed ppl play no role in babies getting sick? Where do the diseases come from then?
    Sorry OP but cut her loose. Her complete and utter disregard for your child's life means that she is not your friend. Do you want to keep a friendship only to potentially lose a child?
    Well there are a lot of places it can come from. For one you are injecting the virus into you there is a chance you can get it from the actual vaccine in some cases. I know the only vax I did on my 6 year ld when she was a baby was rotovirus because everyone insisted and my ex partner just wouldnt let it go. Saying things like if she gets it she will be so sick and can die. blah blah blah well fine I got it know what? Everyone in the house got rotovirus and we all survived. I am so glad I prevented rotovirus in my baby


    OP bottom line is its your baby and you have the right to do what you want with your children if this means not having unvaxxed people around her your friend will just have to accept that. Just explain to her that you are really uncomfortable with it and thats it. Tell her to come visit in 6 months. Although most people who dont vax wont want their unvaxxed kids near one that has recently been vaxxed so this may be simpler than you think.

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    OP you've said you respect her choice so tell her that and ask her to respect yours. If she can't do that, she's not much of a friend IMO.
    NB- whole its true that it takes all three shots for the full benefit of the wc vax, even that first shot lessens the risk if catching wc and if one was to catch it then, it would be less severe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovemyfam View Post
    Well there are a lot of places it can come from. For one you are injecting the virus into you there is a chance you can get it from the actual vaccine in some cases. I know the only vax I did on my 6 year ld when she was a baby was rotovirus because everyone insisted and my ex partner just wouldnt let it go. Saying things like if she gets it she will be so sick and can die. blah blah blah well fine I got it know what? Everyone in the house got rotovirus and we all survived. I am so glad I prevented rotovirus in my baby


    OP bottom line is its your baby and you have the right to do what you want with your children if this means not having unvaxxed people around her your friend will just have to accept that. Just explain to her that you are really uncomfortable with it and thats it. Tell her to come visit in 6 months. Although most people who dont vax wont want their unvaxxed kids near one that has recently been vaxxed so this may be simpler than you think.
    You know this is the pro vax section, right? There are a few issues with your post.
    No vaccine is 100% effective so without it, your baby may have had a much more severe case of rotavirus. Your baby may have been much sicker, but had some protection from the vaccine.
    Also you aren't injecting the virus per se, you are injecting a dead or attenuated (severely weakened) form of it. The chances of transmission from a vaccine are very small and very rare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atropos View Post
    You know this is the pro vax section, right? There are a few issues with your post.
    No vaccine is 100% effective so without it, your baby may have had a much more severe case of rotavirus. Your baby may have been much sicker, but had some protection from the vaccine.
    Also you aren't injecting the virus per se, you are injecting a dead or attenuated (severely weakened) form of it. The chances of transmission from a vaccine are very small and very rare.

    I know what section it is, I didnt say anything offensive or try to push my beliefs on anyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atropos View Post
    No vaccine is 100% effective so without it, your baby may have had a much more severe case of rotavirus. Your baby may have been much sicker, but had some protection from the vaccine.
    Also you aren't injecting the virus per se, you are injecting a dead or attenuated (severely weakened) form of it. The chances of transmission from a vaccine are very small and very rare.

    Thanks, this is exactly what I was going to reply.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovemyfam View Post
    I know what section it is, I didnt say anything offensive or try to push my beliefs on anyone.
    No, not directly, but you did imply that vaccines can give you the disease they are meant to prevent, without mentioning that in the extremely rare case that this happens, it is a much milder form and that the chance of actually transmitting the virus is tiny. You also gave an anecdote about rotavirus implying that you may as well have not given it since your child still caught it, without acknowledging that your child would most likely have Been much sicker had she/he not had the vaccine. Pretty glaring omissions IMO.

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    Hangon - didn't Lovemyfam say that having the rotovirus vaccine saved her baby?

    I thought her post was quite supportive, actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulahoop View Post
    Hangon - didn't Lovemyfam say that having the rotovirus vaccine saved her baby?

    I thought her post was quite supportive, actually.
    That's what I thought she said

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marepoppin View Post
    That's what I thought she said
    Me too

    I saw it as someone who is not necessarily pro vax, but still gave relevant advice. I'm confused as to how lmf post was argumentative. Yes gave an anecdote on personal experience but also gave advice as a no vaxxer by saying that most non vaxxer's try to avoid recently vaxxed people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atropos View Post
    No, not directly, but you did imply that vaccines can give you the disease they are meant to prevent, without mentioning that in the extremely rare case that this happens, it is a much milder form and that the chance of actually transmitting the virus is tiny. You also gave an anecdote about rotavirus implying that you may as well have not given it since your child still caught it, without acknowledging that your child would most likely have Been much sicker had she/he not had the vaccine. Pretty glaring omissions IMO.
    When dd2 was vaxxed against rotavirus I was told it was basically a gastro one and to be very careful changing nappies for the next few days as we could inadvertently pass it on to ourselves as it is highly contagious in the first few days.

    I'm a vaxxer. I understand the likely hood of catching viruses from the vac is low, and if you do get the virus it is usually a milder form.

    I found telling people that bub isn't yet vaxxed and we need to be careful of exposure is usually taking pretty well. I also asked that anyone sick not be around my bub. Some people were disappointed by they all understood and agreed it was best.

    At the end of the day I think it will be a non issue. As long as you say you don't want bub catching any viruses so if your not feeling well could you come over another time. I think all should be ok. If she isn't well I think you might need to reevaluate your friendship.

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