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    Default Terrified of non-vaccinated children!

    A update of scientific evidence re MMR and autism.

    nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/14761240/

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    Default Terrified of non-vaccinated children!

    I think in 10 years time the fad for non vaccination will be over when people have their eyes awakened to the harsh realities of living life in a society susceptible to preventable infectious disease. Unfortunately of course this realisation will come at a cost of children's lives.

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    Default Terrified of non-vaccinated children!

    I'm on my phone so can't reply to everyone but will try to remember the points everyone has raised.

    I'm worried about unvaccinated children coz kids are gross and slobber all over each other and have no problem with sharing bodily fluids. I would hope that the adults my baby is around will be a bit less gross lol.

    Good point though about unvaccinated adults, my whole family is vaccinated as we all had all of our boosters when my niece was born 2 years ago so will get onto my in-laws to make sure their boosters are up to date. Though I imagine adults in the general population would have built up some immunity due to childhood vaccinations (I'm no expert on vaccinations however I would imagine that even if you're due for a booster, your body would retain some immunity, as isn't the point of vaccinations to help your body learn to fight these diseases?).

    And yes, once my baby is vaccinated, she will be protected. However in the period while she is too young for certain vaccinations, she will not be protected and this is what I'm most worried about. Also regarding vaccinated kids carrying the germs - some unvaccinated kid with a disease might cough / sneeze on my niece or nephew who will then come to my house and touch my baby = germs on my baby.

    Also, "herd immunity" is a term I've learnt this week - vaccinations are most effective when the highest number of people have them. I read an article this morning saying that 1 in 12 children aren't vaccinated now - that's a big break in the chain, meaning these diseases have a much greater chance of spreading.

    Don't get my wrong, I'm not a germaphobe, I know it is inevitable that my daughter will get sick and I think it's a good thing for her to get colds and the flu and whatever else as a baby to build up some natural immunity. What I'm not OK with is her getting whopping cough and potentially dying because someone chooses to ignore all of the scientific research that has been done into vaccines.

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    But you do know that your child won't ever be 100% protected from, for example, WC? The vaccine is not 100%. And the first dose which most parents get at 8 weeks doesn't mean they are fully protected either. I think it's only after the 6 month dose.

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    To be honest, i'm a bit worried too for the same reason. There is a lot of WC going around my region and having caught it myself 2 years ago, its not something i'd wish upon anyone. We have a few friends with unvaccinated kids, but i'm not going to let our baby be around them until it's vaccinated. Same goes for adults, just tell people you want to be careful for the first few weeks and if they haven't had their booster, or are sick/have a cough or the flu to please not be around the baby. There is a big resurgence in my area over the last few years, and my GP told me that she's seeing more and more babies catching it because less people are vaccinating their children.

    Some people i find are quite selfish and will still want to come and see the baby whether they or their children have the flu/a bad cough that is contagious. Just put your foot down for the first few weeks when baby is tiny.

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    I'm fully aware that it isn't a 100% guarantee that my child won't get a particular illness, however if the vaccine is the difference between her dying from whopping cough or just getting a mild case of it (which I'm sure would be frightening enough in itself), then I'm all for it.

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    if you have only just heard of 'herd immunity', then you probably do still have some research to do. Good on you for questioning, and looking into it now.

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    I am also concerned about when my baby is born ..July .. Whopping cough is everywhere at the moment .. I am so over the non vax people .. Unless proper reason not to vac as in immune issues etc ..

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    unfortunately you can't control what others do, so all you can do is try and keep the baby away from sick people if you can before it has its vaccinations. My GP told me in winter, don't have the baby out for too long in shopping centres, and don't pass it around to people you don't know well that have a sniffle/cough in those first 6 weeks.

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    Grrrr it makes me so mad that the scientist who fabricated data on the link between autism and vaccination is still the reason some people won't vaccinate their children. The scientist in question was discredited his data proven to be fraudulent but still the general public wont listen.
    I'm a scientist and there is no question as to whether I would vaccinate. The vaccines protects your baby from the severity of the disease (it's not that they don't work well in everyone! ). The point is measles mumps rubella and wc can kill your baby, leave it severely handicapped, n can cause deafness amongst a whole other list of illnesses, as well as putting at risk other babies, the elderly and pregnant women.

    The adverse reaction of a minority of individuals to vaccines far outweighs the risk of thousands becoming sick and dying from something that was completely preventable.
    People take for granted the difference vaccines have made for disease prevention in society ;(

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