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    Default Terrified of non-vaccinated children!

    Im currently 28 weeks pregnant and I've been reading a bit about vaccination over the last few days to see if it really is a risk or just scaremongering. I've always though vaccination was just the thing that everyone does, because that's how these horrible diseases are stamped out. Now that I've been reading just how many people don't vaccinate and the massive risk this presents to the most vulnerable people in society (elderly, very young, and sick people), I'm absolutely terrified to allow my baby to socialize with non-vaccinated children when she's born. Or even to let her play with her vaccinated cousins, because what if they've been around an unvaccinated child who has whopping cough or measles and pass the germs on? It just really worries me that these diseases which were not a concern at all when I was growing up are now being given the opportunity to reemerge into society all because of a growing number of parents who think decades of scientific research is less accurate and has less importance than one fraudulent study that showed a link to autism...
    No questions or anything here, just had to have a bit of a vent!

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    Once your little one has had her vaccinations, won't you be safe then? Wear your baby, and don't hand her around, so there is less exposure to the unvaccinated.

    If your nieces/nephews are vaccinated, why do you think they are at risk from unvaccinated kids? Do you think vaccinated kids can be carriers of disease?

    Maybe keep reading up on what the vaccines do cover, and what they don't, so you know when to worry, when to take extra precautions, and when you can relax.

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    Default Re: Terrified of non-vaccinated children!

    Firstly - breath.

    Secondly - don't want to scare you more but a lot of adults haven't had boosters so are effectively unvaccinated.

    It is scary, I'm no stranger to freaking out over everything that could go wrong and after so so so much time spend so freaked out about everything I *think* I'm reaching the point of managing what I can control and trying to let go of what I cant.

    Maybe talk to chn/mw/gp about how to minimise the risk to your baby when they arrive?

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    Default Terrified of non-vaccinated children!

    I don't get why people are so worried about unvaccinated children but not adults?

    Also, if your child is immunized then won't that make you feel safe? It's the unimmunized ones that are more at risk of catching an illness, isn't it?

    Do you think you're perhaps just stressed about becoming a mum in general? Try and relax and talk to someone about your fears in general and hopefully that will help.

    And I'm not saying this to scare you at all but vaccination is not 100% effective. Vaccinated kids do still get WC, etc so the best form of prevention is still to keep them away from sick people, wash hands, etc even if they have had jabs. Obviously you can't keep your kids living in a bubble but at least that way you will hopefully avoid some bugs.

    ETA: the MMR vaccine is the one that some people link to autism and this isn't given until a child is 12 months.

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    Default Re: Terrified of non-vaccinated children!

    I think I'd be more worried about adults who haven't had their boosters to be honest. When bub is little and more vulnerable its going to be adults touching and holding more so than children!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrstuilawa View Post
    I think I'd be more worried about adults who haven't had their boosters to be honest. When bub is little and more vulnerable its going to be adults touching and holding more so than children!
    This is a great point, and something you can do something about now! Get the adults close to you (baby's father, grandparents, aunties & uncles, family friends etc) to check their immunisation status and get boosters for all the conditions you are concerned about. You can find out your status now too, and then get boosters after baby is here.

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    Default Terrified of non-vaccinated children!

    My friend just had to have half of her child hood immunisations again because they didnt work! Hep b, rubella things like that. We were all shocked!

    I won't be allowing my bubba to have anyone in contact unless they get there WC boosters it's MY baby MY choice. You don't like it? Don't visit simple. Wear your baby like others suggest. I'm pro vaccination but some I think CAN be delayed. I'm also a huge advocate for staying at home for the first few weeks but this is everyone's personal choice. I know people can go crazy. But I'm currently on the bus sitting next to 5 people coughing like crazy *FREAKING OUT*.

    It comes down to personal choice unfortunately people don't have to vaccinate and that's fine I don't judge there parenting they often get them immunised when they are older! Don't freak out, if your bub is done she should be safe and if your family is immunised too. Also walking with a blanket/muslin wrap thing over the pram in public.

    Relax, breath enjoy your pregnancy and talk to your midwifes about this xxx

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    There was a story about this on the project the other night - about how the increase of people refusing to vaccinate is being accompanied by a reemergence of preventable disease in society. Everyone should be vaccinated apart from people who can't for medical reasons. They are putting out a booklet in order to educate people. I don't think there's a need to panic though, and just be a bit cautious in those first months but still visit the cousins!

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    Okay, touché subject and I just want to point something out to you without pushing my own beliefs onto you - if you had been thoroughly researching, you'd be coming across information that shows you there ARE significant risks and youd come across the original papers of the man who invented vaccines, then realized the side effects and tried to publicise his mistake and advocate NOT to do it, but the government destroyed his career, reputation, his career, his life because they liked the idea of controlling the masses, gaining money, and preventing sickness in the general population - they don't care about the few who will be damaged or worse die, as long as the vast majority or people are vacvinated and healthy. 

    Whether or not someone vaccinated, it's their choice without judgement. But people need to be thoroughly educated aBout both sides. 

    So I personally had a reaction to my whooping cough vaccine and was in hospital dying but somehow pulled through. Most traumatic event of my life and has left a lot of anxiety I've had to work through. It was weird when 8 other people got whooping cough suddenly after being vaccinated in the same batch... A few years later there was a little boy at my little sisters school, and he got a late vaccination also, and became really sick. After recovering he had something wrong... He couldn't talk, he was a different person with a disability. His parents were mortified with wht happened, they had been led to believe vaccinations were all good an weren't told the serious side effects that happens to a small number of people. 
    I've seen an pattern with people vaccinating their babies and they et fevers, go off food, develop eczema and food allergies etc. 

    So years later after I had my son, I research both sides. The vaccines made sense, I could understand the logic, but I also read into the other side which is not so commonly talked about and came across the original articles of the scientist who created them, how he began seeing serious side effects in rats and people and urged for his vaccines to stop with a public apology and had his career an reputation destroyed by the government for doing so. 
    I came across articles of horror stories that were happening everywhere, but not being shown to the general public. I came to the decision that no I won't be vaccinating my child and went to the doctor to get a conscientious objection form. He refused. We sat there for literally two hours debating our beliefs to each other, and he said something After tiring of the argument which stuck with me "yes, vaccines carry serious side effects, and sometimes the vaccines don't work at all for certain people and they are not protected from the disease but for the most of the public they work and it is safer to have a large majority of the population vaccinated and protected with a few who have a serious reaction than it is for noone to be vaccinated at all" 

    Yes, vaccines work. 
    But do you realize even a fully vaccinated person can still get a disease they were vaccinated for because sometimes the vaccines don't work and don't offer protection? That's actually very common, more so than reactions.

    They can and will harm a small number of the thousands vaccinated - is that a risk you are prepared to face your child with? 

    For me the answer was no. 
    But I can understand why many parents choose to vaccinate, so I'm not writing this to push my beliefs on you, I'm writing to share my experiences and urge you to thoroughly research the negative effects of vaccines and not Just the positive.

    I'd also like to point out that it is irrational to carry a fear of non-vaccinated people, but it Is common sense to protect a new baby from germs and illnesses of all kinds. I don't think it's the people you need to worry about, it's the hygiene an exposure. Wash hands before touching the baby, especially when your in public places or handling money or animals, cover the pram with muslin cloth and cover baby with muslin cloth when holding in supermarkets etc to protect him/her from breathing germs. The aircon just circulates the air, so if one person coughs or sneezes into the air their germs will just float around until Eventually having the aircon blow it everywhere all over the shop. 
    It's also common sense not to let anyone who has a cold to come near your baby until they're better. 

    Diet helps build a strong immune system too.

    Whether or not your child is vaccinated they will come into contact with germs, sicknesses and diseases all over the place and you may not even know it...it can be as simple as Someone sick who blew their nose and left the tissue on a park bench, which the wind blew away and then you come along with your baby/child an you/the child puts your hand on that particular spot where the tissue was, then eventually baby puts their hand in their mouth, or the child picks their nose or you rub your eye - and then that persons germs have entered the body and you don't even know. 

    So it's just important to take precautions but not drive yourself crazy with paranoia  

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    Quote Originally Posted by monnie24 View Post
    It comes down to personal choice unfortunately people don't have to vaccinate and that's fine I don't judge there parenting
    I do! The increase in non-vaccination puts very young babies at risk while they are not fully vaccinated yet. It's completely negligent to put other babies at risk like this IMO. Some people have valid reasons not to vaccinate but most don't. They're just ignorant.

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