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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovemyfam View Post

    I know that you cant not just eat sorry wasnt implying that food addiction was exactly the same more how society treats heavy people compared to smokers etc maybe if it wasnt so socially acceptable to be obese maybe less people would be obese.
    This what I don't understand.

    It isn't socially accepted. If it was acceptable I would have been spat at, had my food spat on or pushed onto the floor, called all the names under the sun, have random strangers tell me I shouldn't eat in public, Tell my kids that I wasn't really their mum because no could ever have sex with such a disgusting beast etc.....
    I have lived a lifetime of abuse due to my size.

    Seriously I have had people treat me like Dog poo when I was bigger than when I lost some weight it was like all of a sudden I was a person. A real person that they could see and talk to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovemyfam View Post
    Its not all about food, its about activity, you can eat healthy and be obese if you dont get up and move, you can eat a ton of junk food and not gain weight because you are active. This is why it shouldnt all be blamed on fast food companies. We have to be held accountable for our own health and our own weight.
    I have epilepsy and take numerous medications that contribute to my weight gain. One being epilem. I have gained 20+ kilos on this medication but my seizures have stopped. This makes me unhealthy though if an arrogant person looks at me walking down the street. Me not destroying my brain is more of a priority than being overweight!

    Some people do exercise, do eat well and actually still have a big body. This is a very arrogant thing to say.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SassyMummy View Post
    I was hoping that food addiction wouldn't be compared to drugs/alcohol/smoking but since it was...

    Yes, they can all be addictions. The KEY difference though, is drugs/alcohol/cigarettes are all not essential to life. I don't know ANY recovered alcoholic who can "just have one beer," and be fine... but that's what people expect of food addicts. We can never just give up food - so it's not a case of just avoidng food, avoiding people who eat food, just not buying food... as you can do with smoking, drugs and alcohol. You NEED to eat... forever. Telling an over-eater/binge eater to "just eat a little bit," is like telling a junkie to "just use a little bit." It sounds ridiculous because it is. It IS that hard.

    I have never said to my daughter, "Big is beautiful," or "it's okay to obese," and honestly don't know anybody who would. If they did, they'd be idiots. What I DO say to my daughter though, is that her HEALTH matters. Not her size. Her size never matters. Sometimes it may be an indicator of her health, sometimes not. That so long as she looks after her health, that's what matters. Not being fat or skinny.

    I do agree that children need to learn what foods are healthy and what aren't, and it's something we've talked about in this family from the moment my daughter was quite small. She's 7.5 and will choose healthy most days. I mean, her lunch tomorrow? A wrap with roast turkey breast, lettuce, cucumber and tomato, some cucumber sticks and an apple... and a bottle of water. SO I mean, trust me, we know healthy in this house... but my point was calories. You made out like calories were simple... that the info is on the packet, so people (and then kids) should know what they're having. TO expect small children to know what they're doing to their bodies when they eat a Big Mac is ridiculous. They can know it's "unhealthy," but I think you'd be hard pressed to find many kids who would understand the nutritional breakdown of a Big Mac and what that means for their RDI as a child of whatever age, and then their own personal dietary requirements as well. You'd be hard pressed to find an ADULT who knows all of that.

    I'm talking as someone who was technically morbidly obese, who is now simply "overweight," so I mean, I do know what I'm talking about. I acknowledged that I lacked what it took to lose the weight I needed to and keep it off on my own, so resorted to surgery (don't worry, I paid for it, not Medicare...) to protect my own declining health due to my size.

    It shows a gross amount of ignorance though to assume that fat people are jerks who just don't bother to lose weight because they're selfish and can't be stuffed considering their families though. Absolute ignorance.

    ETA - LMF, are you suggesting that perhaps if people are not considered to be fit and healthy, they should not be taken care of by Medicare or by their private health insurance?
    While I don't disagree with your point that food addicts still need to eat, they don't need to eat fast food. I agree that fast food is only a small part of it for some people but for some obese people access to junk food is a big part of why they are obese. So in the same way an alcoholic has to live in a society where pubs and alcohol is a part of life they have to make the choice not to go in. Doesn't the same apply to a food addict? They have to make the choice not to go into McDonalds or KFC or whatever place it is? Yes there's still a lot of bad choices that can be made at supermarkets but aren't these so called restaurants the equivalent of a pub for a recovering alcoholic?

    I genuinely don't know I've never been overweight (for which I am very grateful after reading stories like anewme's) but my BFF was morbidly obese and I know for a long time she ate really well just far too much food, but then would also binge on junk food (her downfall).

    I never let my kids anywhere near fast food restaurants as I just don't want it becoming a part of their world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by anewme View Post
    This what I don't understand.

    It isn't socially accepted. If it was acceptable I would have been spat at, had my food spat on or pushed onto the floor, called all the names under the sun, have random strangers tell me I shouldn't eat in public, Tell my kids that I wasn't really their mum because no could ever have sex with such a disgusting beast etc.....
    I have lived a lifetime of abuse due to my size.

    Seriously I have had people treat me like Dog poo when I was bigger than when I lost some weight it was like all of a sudden I was a person. A real person that they could see and talk to.
    I really relate to this. I lost 30 kilos with a thyroid problem during high school. I have always been chubby but really active and all the 'popular' girls wanted to be my friends suddenly. It was really eye opening how people view you differently when you drop the weight. It's such a shame. I can't eat in public now because I feel humiliated. I'm sorry this happened to you. But you have become such an amazing person now and come out on the better side!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovemyfam View Post
    Children shouldnt have to worry about calories, that is our job as a parent to make sure our kids are eating healthy then teach them as they age about healthy eating. I know not all kids will listen but its still our job as parents.
    How can children take that advice seriously though when the parents themselves are quite obviously obese? Shouldn't the parents be setting a good example?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsOhara View Post
    How can children take that advice seriously though when the parents themselves are quite obviously obese? Shouldn't the parents be setting a good example?
    Well I am dam glad my kids learnt/ are learning from my mistakes and down falls (re weight) and I learnt from my dads (re smoking).
    Sure being a great example is the best but sometimes it not always possible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsOhara View Post
    How can children take that advice seriously though when the parents themselves are quite obviously obese? Shouldn't the parents be setting a good example?
    They cant, kids dont respond to do as a say not as I do.

    Also obesity hasnt always been socially acceptable but it has become and is becoming more, just look at facebook all the big is beautiful and beauty comes in all sizes pages its there and is getting more and more acceptable it needs to stop its killing people who think its ok to be obese because society is coming to accept it. My daughter has so many friends that are already obese at 15 and 16, when I was 15 and 16 if you were obese you simply had no life, people teased you and so we as teens always said we dont want to be that girl. Is it right? no its not right to tease people but its also not right to watch someone slowly kill themselves and not say that it is wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrsOhara View Post
    How can children take that advice seriously though when the parents themselves are quite obviously obese? Shouldn't the parents be setting a good example?
    I know I am a less than perfect parent. I get cross, swear occasionally, drink wine in front of them some evenings, ignore them when I'm on the phone and they're fighting, let them eat in from of tv some days when it's too hard. Being overweight isn't by far the worst thing a parent can do. Yes it's sad if they shorten their life span by not being healthy but there are far worse things to be as a parent than overweight.

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    I think maybe we need to start a spin off thread this has gotten really off track sorry OP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    While I don't disagree with your point that food addicts still need to eat, they don't need to eat fast food. I agree that fast food is only a small part of it for some people but for some obese people access to junk food is a big part of why they are obese. So in the same way an alcoholic has to live in a society where pubs and alcohol is a part of life they have to make the choice not to go in. Doesn't the same apply to a food addict? They have to make the choice not to go into McDonalds or KFC or whatever place it is? Yes there's still a lot of bad choices that can be made at supermarkets but aren't these so called restaurants the equivalent of a pub for a recovering alcoholic?

    I genuinely don't know I've never been overweight (for which I am very grateful after reading stories like anewme's) but my BFF was morbidly obese and I know for a long time she ate really well just far too much food, but then would also binge on junk food (her downfall).

    I never let my kids anywhere near fast food restaurants as I just don't want it becoming a part of their world.
    The difference is an alcoholic or drug addict doesn't need them to stay alive. Food is an essential part of survival. You need to eat food 3 - 5 times a day. We don't give alcoholics a drink.


 
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