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    I totally understand that people like these movies. I just will never understand why people like watching movies with extreme torture, violence and people being brutally murdered. I don't get how watching people in pain being chopped up is entertainment....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clementine Grace View Post
    I totally understand that people like these movies. I just will never understand why people like watching movies with extreme torture, violence and people being brutally murdered. I don't get how watching people in pain being chopped up is entertainment....
    With saw and hostel its not just mindless chopping up of people, there is a lot more to the movies which people who have not watched them will not understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovemyfam View Post
    I think the ratings over here are a lot more lax not sure what they are rated over here but in the US its rated R

    Very interesting points, never thought about those shows in the way you jsut brought up. Now you have me thinking
    Gory films with distinct lines between good and evil that the audience can clearly identify are far less harmful no matter how much gratuitous violence then films where the lines are blurred and the audience can connect with elements of a 'bad guys' motives. This is where your gonna get ppl thinking 'well in certain circumstances its ok to do xyz'.

    The plot of Dexter is so thought provoking. Is it ok to kill ppl if they are also killers? Is he helping humanity by 'taking out the trash'? Is it less wrong because he doesn't torture them and gets it over quick? What does it say about the viewer who watches Dexter and cheers him on when he is successful and roots for him not to be discovered? Why are we on the side of a serial killer?
    It asks you to accept we live in a world of grays.

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    Nope, don't like them and would be more than happy about a new classification/ warning label placed on them.

    Reason no. 1: I get worried- there are enough psychopaths out there without this sort of stuff available to give them more ideas! (Whether or not that's true- I still get worried)

    Reason no.2: same as porn, the more of it you watch, the more desensitized to it you become - is it really good for society to have access to material like this that desensitizes us to violence, human suffering, etc? Sure, I know there is a line between fantasy and reality, but it still makes me uncomfortable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovemyfam View Post
    With saw and hostel its not just mindless chopping up of people, there is a lot more to the movies which people who have not watched them will not understand.
    I have to agree with this. Thats true for those two movies.

    Movies like Human Centipede however, have no purpose. I watched number 2 of that in bits and pieces through my hands over my eyes and my fingers in my ears. Doubt I made it half way before I put my ipod in and played on the computer while DP watched it. Grossed me out too much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lovemyfam View Post
    With saw and hostel its not just mindless chopping up of people, there is a lot more to the movies which people who have not watched them will not understand.
    A lot of horror movies have the violence implied, but not explicitly shown - like you are told what is going to happen to someone, then it happens behind closed doors so you don't actuall see all that much. Do you think you would have enjoyed Saw as much if the violence was handled in that type of way, or do specifically like to see the prolonged violent scenes in the movie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clementine Grace View Post
    I totally understand that people like these movies. I just will never understand why people like watching movies with extreme torture, violence and people being brutally murdered. I don't get how watching people in pain being chopped up is entertainment....
    I guess because people like me can easily be like "meh, its not real".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meg2 View Post
    A lot of horror movies have the violence implied, but not explicitly shown - like you are told what is going to happen to someone, then it happens behind closed doors so you don't actuall see all that much. Do you think you would have enjoyed Saw as much if the violence was handled in that type of way, or do specifically like to see the prolonged violent scenes in the movie?
    I know you're not asking me but I agreed with your quoted post so I wanna answer from my point of view.

    In Saw especially, you kind of need to see them going through the pain. The pain is the consequence of their choice and kind of like a form of Karma. The junkie had to roll around in a pit of needles to show herself how she was treating herself (like a pin cushion) etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meg2 View Post
    A lot of horror movies have the violence implied, but not explicitly shown - like you are told what is going to happen to someone, then it happens behind closed doors so you don't actuall see all that much. Do you think you would have enjoyed Saw as much if the violence was handled in that type of way, or do specifically like to see the prolonged violent scenes in the movie?
    I dont think it would be as effective, I mean to hear jigsaw say what we see would be a bit odd. In stead of showing it he would say something like. "I wanna play a game, I am going to put you on a chain and you will have to cut off your own leg to escape. That isnt going to portray the pain, suffering and hard decision that the actors have to go through.

    I dont think it would make you think as much as actually watching it if that makes sense. I love blood and gore always have like I said I use to subscribe to fangoria magazine as a kid.

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