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    I personally would never watch Saw or Hostel or any of those movies. I don't fancy giving myself nightmares nor do I fancy sick twisted movies BUT as PP's have said, if you don't like it don't watch it. So I don't watch it. I do believe that these sorts of movies give already sick people even sicker ideas (think James Bulger murder) but I don't believe that banning them would fix the problem of copy cat movie murders.

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    I think the name "Torture Porn" gives the total wrong impression. If Saw had that label I wouldn't watch it thinking there was porn in the movie, which it doesnt. I think it should be called "Torture Horror". That gives people more of an idea what the movie is about. Having said that, I think "Horror" is a good enough label.

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    I think they are gross and could not watch them but torture porn gives totally the wrong idea imo. Sounds like serious bdsm etc.


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    Default Torture Porn?

    Yeah, torture porn kinda seems more like a label for a snuff movie I think. But as an actual definition, this from Merriam Webster

    Definition of PORNOGRAPHY

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    : the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement
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    : material (as books or a photograph) that depicts erotic behavior and is intended to cause sexual excitement
    3
    : the depiction of acts in a sensational manner so as to arouse a quick intense emotional reaction <the pornography of violence>
    — por·no·graph·ic adjective
    — por·no·graph·i·cal·ly adverb

    So the term is actually accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moosey View Post
    I think the name "Torture Porn" gives the total wrong impression. If Saw had that label I wouldn't watch it thinking there was porn in the movie, which it doesnt. I think it should be called "Torture Horror". That gives people more of an idea what the movie is about. Having said that, I think "Horror" is a good enough label.
    Actually I think it would be really good to have a different label for this genre. There is a world of difference between horror that is designed to scare (something like The Grudge) and a movie that revolves around violence. I think 'torture' is good label (no need to add the p0rn part).

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    Default Torture Porn?

    As someone who hates it, I find it extremely accurate in conveying how it affects people. People are getting off (not necessarily a sexual thing) on torture. It's the same kind of thing as when people say online shopping is chick porn...

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    I don't think that 'horror' is a suitable label for it. I like horror movies. The Saw movies etc are repulsive and I find it highly disturbing that people can watch and enjoy these movies, also the people that make them must be so freaking sick in the head. Yuck yuck yuck.
    I do agree that torture porn makes it sound like something it's not, so maybe 'torture' would be a better label. However I DO agree with some PP that it should be banned. It's sick and disgusting and yes there are numerous studies on how these kind of movies have an effect on violent behaviours.

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    From the definition that Atropos posted, "torture porn" seems like the perfect classification. I love a scary movie, but these are in a league of their own and easily disturb me. I, however, get fully absorbed in movies, feel for the characters , i see only the movie etc. some people are more easily ableto separate themselves and reality. They can see the room and surroundings they are sitting in and then the tv they are watching, if that makes sense?

    I don't think they should be banned. Saw was a fantastic movie, the first one that is. Then they got so over the top and b grade, the violence increased to keep up with the level in other movies. I think I we were to go back and watch saw now, it would seem tame in comparison to others.

    The one thing il disagree with most on is that a lot of people do have a sexual response to horror. It is the same physiological reaction that takes place when you are scared as aroused. Though I prefer Supernatural horrors and thrillers to gratuitous violence...,but hey! Whatever floats your boat!

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    I'm a huge horror fan, both of movies and books. But I'm old school. Stephen King, Friday the 13th, Halloween. Movies and books that scared the crap out of people without all the revolting gore. I watched the new Texas Chainsaw Massacre a few years ago, and as a seasoned horror fan I just felt sickened. A good horror (and I don't think these sort of gross movies are horror they have their own sub genre) doesn't need the huge amounts of gore to scare people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atropos View Post
    No, sorry, terrible comparison. Saw and Hostel star actors, paid and willing to act in the film with full understanding and consent. Child porn stars underage victims being sexually abused on camera without consent, and is completely illegal. Bestiality- how can an animal give informed consent? And I'm pretty sure that's illegal too.

    I think Cleigh's point came across just fine, if you don't like a genre, don't watch it. Hence why I don't watch things like Saw or Hostel. I have no desire to see such violence, fear and pain inflicted on anyone. I don't understand the desire to see it either. Is the label torture porn appropriate? Kinda. It is graphic, it s gratuitous, it does focus on long, drawn out torture scenes. It's not going to stop anyone who really wants to watch it and it may warn the unsuspecting. I don't necessarily think that less people viewing explicit violence and torture scenes is a bad thing, but again, I doubt it will stop people viewing it and slapping a controversial label on it may actually have the opposite effect.
    I'm not drawing a comparison between these genres as movies - I know everything you've pointed out but thank you anyway. My MIL has worked closely with the classification board for many years so I am quite lucky to get an insight into a lot of the arguments around banning films.

    This is not a new topic, nor is anyone currently looking at banning any of these film (which were all released many years ago) - I remain deeply suspicious of the motives behind this thread so don't really want to add to it.

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