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    Default Re: Torture Porn?

    Quote Originally Posted by ermergerd View Post
    There was a few posts and couple of pages back with the implication that there is something wrong with the people who enjoy these movies
    I have been reading along. I must have missed that. The only bit I remember that might go that way for me was that some people, in particular those with homicidal tendencies, can copy cat. I'll have to read back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ermergerd View Post
    There was a few posts a couple of pages back with the implication that there is something wrong with the people who enjoy these movies
    I think some pps have found it strange that people who have a strong dislike of porn like torture films. I also know the OP has made comments in other threads about her views on one night stands, or sex without love generally, so I found it curious that she was so enarmoured with films depicting naked or near naked girls being tortured. Wasn't a judgment on her views just once again fascinating how humans work.

    Personally, I find shows like "two and a half men" extremely offensive and the fact that it was at one time the most popular tv show in Australia far more disturbing than any horror movie I could watch.

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    The post that stuck out to me was something along the lines of 'i have to window what kind of people enjoy this' im paraphrasing of course but its (to me) making those people are to be something they just arent

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    Default Torture Porn?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    I think some pps have found it strange that people who have a strong dislike of porn like torture films. I also know the OP has made comments in other threads about her views on one night stands, or sex without love generally, so I found it curious that she was so enarmoured with films depicting naked or near naked girls being tortured. Wasn't a judgment on her views just once again fascinating how humans work.

    Personally, I find shows like "two and a half men" extremely offensive and the fact that it was at one time the most popular tv show in Australia far more disturbing than any horror movie I could watch.
    2 and a half men is atrocious, I agree. I hate the way women are portrayed in that show. Grrr!

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    I think for the lay person labelling something with 'porn' as in 'torture porn' implies that its a movie about people having sex and doing/being tortured. Regardless of the fact that the definition of porn is all about rising heartbeat, hormonal response, etc, etc (as a pp mentioned) I think the average person will see porn as sex.

    If you are going to label something I think you need to be careful about the label and what it means to the general population, not the Oxford dictionary definition.

    Does anyone remember the 'Faces of Death' doco or whatever it was supposed to be in the '80s. That was released....the subsequently banned and all everyone wanted to do was rent it. Same with Shocking Asia. I think when you ban something people will just want to see it more, ends up driving it underground and thats when worse things can happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ermergerd View Post
    There was a few posts a couple of pages back with the implication that there is something wrong with the people who enjoy these movies
    I was saying that I know people like then but I personally can't understand why people want to watch that stuff for entertainment. And I really don't understand. If my fiancé came home with human centepide for Friday might movie night, it would freak me out. But that's me, I know a lot of people like that kind of extreme horror. Just isn't for me. I don't think those movies should be banned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    I think some pps have found it strange that people who have a strong dislike of porn like torture films. I also know the OP has made comments in other threads about her views on one night stands, or sex without love generally, so I found it curious that she was so enarmoured with films depicting naked or near naked girls being tortured. Wasn't a judgment on her views just once again fascinating how humans work.

    Personally, I find shows like "two and a half men" extremely offensive and the fact that it was at one time the most popular tv show in Australia far more disturbing than any horror movie I could watch.
    Totally agree with this. I found it very interesting too. God I HATE that show.

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    I don't think they should be called 'porn' in any way, because then it takes away from real porn., but that's just me. Probably better labeling might be called for? Who knows.

    I personally can watch a certain amount of horror and gore if the plot is interesting, but I find that once I've seen the film, that's it. Like the original Saw movie...great movie, great plot...but once I knew what happened and had the conversation with myself "gee what would I do?" That was it. I can't watch it again and again because I already know the intricate details of the movie, the only thing I'd be watching is the gore - again! Which I cannot do.

    I've tried watching it again...but I can't because now that I know what happens the curiosity of (what happens next) is gone and I'm left with mindless gore.

    My husband can watch gory movies till the cows come home. Somebody mentioned how they can't understand well I don't fully understand it either but I most certainly don't think less of a person. My husband can watch gory movies but if he sees an animal being tortured or in pain for real...he falls apart and needs to stop it. Maybe because the movies are make believe and a real animal being hurt is - real? But then he has been a funeral director/undertaker/mortician too and he can handle that - I would not. Doesn't make him desensitised, he just has the abilitity to separate things in his mind better than other lay people.

    I personally don't think there's any hard and fast rule about the 'type' of people and most certainly don't believe any 'study' either because humans are more complex than all that and it'd be impossible to study every single scenario and separate the types of people.

    My husband is case in point. The nicest guy in the world, has the heart of gold but has the ability to switch if off for work in order to get his job done. I hazard a guess that same ability is used while watching make believe films too. Not everyone has that ability - I don't think it makes anyone more or less empathetic. I believe one is born with the ability to empathise and it is either neglected or nurtured during childhood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ermergerd View Post
    I'm not sure I like how people are trying to demonize those who like to watch these films. The facts are its not real. The people watching these films know it and YES it does have a dramatic effect on how people react to them. People have been fascinated by death and murder since forever, its not something thats suddenly new.

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    Yeh didn't they have audiences when they hung someone or decapitated someone. People would actually come and watch! When they burned witches at stakes...christian people , the very people who sentenced them to death and made out to be holier than thou, would come a watch! And now we watch make believe films that use tomato sauce for blood (I know they don't but that's actually how I get through violent scenes in ANY movie..."that's tomato sauce and that's not a real head...that's plastic" )

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    Quote Originally Posted by blondekelli View Post
    Well I know it's not PC to not be liberal in regards to freedom of speech, but I think they SHOULD be banned. Rape, child porn, bestiality is banned, but sure you can watch people being tortured to extreme gratuitous levels then chopped into pieces. I'm sure this will offend but I reckon there is something a bit amiss with you if you enjoy that level of pain and violence. I don't care whether there is a plot or not. What kind of person enjoys that? I hope in never desensitised enough to be able to watch that kind of rubbish. And comparing it to love or romance movies is absurd. No one is being brutally murderded in a rom-com.
    There's nothing 'amiss' with people. That's not a very nice thing to say. Many different people from many different walks of life enjoy horror and they are normal every day people like you and me! I think it's highly offensive to make out that someone must be a screw loose if they enjoy these movies, just because you don't like them. Some of us are able to separate fiction from non-fiction - obviously you can't...that's fine - then don't watch the movies then! But don't put down others!

    That goes for all of you BTW not just this member. Just getting a bit annoyed seeing all the implications in this thread.

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