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    Again : how carrying a child against your will making the greater good of humanity?

    Oh I know, let's make contraception illegal too then.
    And s3x outside of the fertility window.
    And also m@sturbation obviously.

    And the humanity will be saved. problem solved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    "me me me me me me me me me".

    Women need to take a hit sometimes for the greater good of humanity. Humanity is bigger that your uterus.

    I sort of see where you're going with the organ donation thing. Interesting slant. But I think there are key differences:

    1) kidney donation: by not doing anything you may contribute to someone else's downfall. A person can theoretically survive without a transplant (dialysis). A chunk of the time a person needs a transplant because of unavoidable issues. Then again a chunk of the time it's avoidable (diet, alcohol etc).

    2) abortion: a baby is killed because of a directed and purposeful action to kill the baby was taken. Once a baby is aborted... It's dead. 99% of the time a woman put herself in the preventable position of having an unwanted pregnancy
    99%?
    I giggle at the vicpark book of statistics!

    This topic is just so grey. I am heartily pro-choice and pro woman but I struggle to debate the issue of late term terminations as the mum of a prem.

    I'm also going to need a kidney in coming years (through no fault of my own) so I'm best off staying out of this one altogether.

    That said HOF, I do appreciate where you're coming from xx

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    "me me me me me me me me me".

    Women need to take a hit sometimes for the greater good of humanity. Humanity is bigger that your uterus.

    I sort of see where you're going with the organ donation thing. Interesting slant. But I think there are key differences:

    1) kidney donation: by not doing anything you may contribute to someone else's downfall. A person can theoretically survive without a transplant (dialysis). A chunk of the time a person needs a transplant because of unavoidable issues. Then again a chunk of the time it's avoidable (diet, alcohol etc).

    2) abortion: a baby is killed because of a directed and purposeful action to kill the baby was taken. Once a baby is aborted... It's dead. 99% of the time a woman put herself in the preventable position of having an unwanted pregnancy
    It's not that black and white. It's also not always "women" it could be a 14 year old kid who was raped...

    99% ? im not sure you can say that.

    As stated before, i am pro choice, but i really struggle with making late term abortions legal for non medical reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Clementine Grace View Post
    It's not that black and white. It's also not always "women" it could be a 14 year old kid who was raped...

    99% ? im not sure you can say that.

    As stated before, i am pro choice, but i really struggle with making late term abortions legal for non medical reasons.
    I plucked the 99%... but it would be a darned high figure

    And it's harsh and I really would have sympathy for a 14 year old rape victim. However, I don't think that situation justifies killing a baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    ... 99% of the time a woman put herself in the preventable position of having an unwanted pregnancy
    So are you saying she should be punished then by having to carry an unwanted pregnancy, birthing and maintaining a relationship with the father of the baby for the rest of her life? Have you ever made a mistake or changed your mind about someone or something? Ever driven a little bit over the speed limit? Ever not had doubled contraception? Ever dated a bloke that turned out to be less than satisfactory?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    I plucked the 99%... but it would be a darned high figure

    And it's harsh and I really would have sympathy for a 14 year old rape victim. However, I don't think that situation justifies killing a baby.
    Just for curiosity sake I read a story abojt a 9 y/o rape victim who got pregnant... What's your take on that? I've heard of girls starting to ovulate as young as seven. What if they're a victim of rape and become pregnant?

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskittyfantastico View Post
    99%?
    I giggle at the vicpark book of statistics!

    This topic is just so grey. I am heartily pro-choice and pro woman but I struggle to debate the issue of late term terminations as the mum of a prem.

    I'm also going to need a kidney in coming years (through no fault of my own) so I'm best off staying out of this one altogether.

    That said HOF, I do appreciate where you're coming from xx
    Thanks I thought I was a tad insane thinking no one else got it lol! I hope you get your kidney

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jennaisme View Post
    Just for curiosity sake I read a story abojt a 9 y/o rape victim who got pregnant... What's your take on that? I've heard of girls starting to ovulate as young as seven. What if they're a victim of rape and become pregnant?

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    I'd think that would def come under a medically necessary abortion as a child wouldn't be able to carry a baby to term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    And it's harsh and I really would have sympathy for a 14 year old rape victim. However, I don't think that situation justifies killing a baby.
    So in your world the 14 year old should be made to carry the pregnancy and birth a child of their rapist? Is it not enough that she should endure the pain, suffering and torment of being so grossly violated she then has to carry the perpetrator's baby? Gosh, it seems that it's all so black and white for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    I plucked the 99%... but it would be a darned high figure

    And it's harsh and I really would have sympathy for a 14 year old rape victim. However, I don't think that situation justifies killing a baby.
    Omg

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