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    I didn't say that they would have to be qualified teachers, just educated, certified and vetted. Very different thing to being a qualified teacher, which is a profession and a very noble one at that. Some specialists come to schools and help with various activities such as music and sports, and are not teachers.

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    Yep, I'd prefer a Catholic education for my kids to the previously described unqualified individuals.

    I had a Catholic high school education and it was well structured, interesting and had almost no spiritual blackmailing... almost.

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    Default Why did you choose public/private for your kids schooling?

    Ah that may be in public and some private schools, however at the school my children will be attending (and the other schools I looked at), RE is taught by a proper teacher.

    And to answer a PP about how I said all RE teaching is 'pushing it down the children's throats', I meant that SOME schools push it down their throats (hence the reference to some catholic and Lutheran schools). Again, the schools I chose teach RE but let children make their own choices. So I'm not against sending my kids to a Christian (or Jewish or Muslim) school per se, but I wouldn't send them to one where I thought fundamentalists would try to brainwash my child.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4underfour View Post
    Again, the schools I chose teach RE but let children make their own choices. So I'm not against sending my kids to a Christian (or Jewish or Muslim) school per se, but I wouldn't send them to one where I thought fundamentalists would try to brainwash my child.
    They might not be pushing it down their throat but they are normalising it and children are hard wired to believe what they are told by people in authority positions.

    There is a very old Jesuit quote "give me the child until he is 7 and I will give you the man".

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    Default Why did you choose public/private for your kids schooling?

    Whatever religious school you send your children to is going to be dominated by that religion during teaching. Sure, they might touch on other religions, but they're not going to promote it as much as their own!

    When I went to catholic primary school, it was nothing but Catholicism, in high school there was more about other religions, but we didn't visit the mosque or synagogue every week like we did church!

    ETA - I've been teaching since 1998, and have taught in many schools in many different areas and in another country, and I've seen children picked on or singled out for a lot of things, but religion has never been one of them. I've only really taught in public schools as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Bec~ View Post
    They might not be pushing it down their throat but they are normalising it and children are hard wired to believe what they are told by people in authority positions.

    There is a very old Jesuit quote "give me the child until he is 7 and I will give you the man".
    Well thank goodness my kids aren't starting school till they are 6! Lol

    Look, I tried a public school and it was terrible. I'm happy to put up with a few questions about 'is Jesus real' (answer yes he was probably a real man but the rest of it is just a made up story) to ensure my kids actually learn something. I don't think a bit of Christianity teaching at school is going to make them become church going Christians. It certainly didn't Di that to me or any if my friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Bec~ View Post
    There is a very old Jesuit quote "give me the child until he is 7 and I will give you the man".
    I really like this, it's so true - whether in the hands of a Jesuit or another.

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    So what happens/does it mean exactly when people say ''pushing religion down their throats''... ? what do they do?

    How do you know WHICH schools are more religious than others for instance as well? I have heard of some Catholic schools being heavily religious and some not.. I would have thought they would be all roughly the same, no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Minchi View Post
    So what happens/does it mean exactly when people say ''pushing religion down their throats''... ? what do they do?

    How do you know WHICH schools are more religious than others for instance as well? I have heard of some Catholic schools being heavily religious and some not.. I would have thought they would be all roughly the same, no?
    Pushing it down their throat often depends on interpretation I think. Obviously a person who is even a little bit religious is going to find religious instruction less confronting than an athiest.

    An example though, would be that at the school I attended religion was included in every class. Every class, praying at the start and end of each lesson, etc. To the point that the evolution theory was not taught in science, and books with views that constrasted their religious teaching were removed from the library. This isn't the case any more though, that was all stuff brought in by one particular principal. And this was a fundamentalist christian school, which are a much more literal and strict form of christianity than say anglicans or catholics.

    ETA As a genenral rule, I've found catholic schools have a more relaxed attitude to religion than many others. Although you have to remember that a religious school is just that, they value teaching religion as much as every other educational aspect and you can expect that all teachers will be members of that religion and so on.

    ETA (again...) I haven't read every one of the replies so not sure if it was suggested, but I don't think it's fair for people to choose to send their kids to a religious school and then complain that religion is being 'forced down their kids throat'. I also don't believe that going to a religious school will inevitibly lead you down the path of christ. I spent a loooooong time at that school and am not religious, nor do I hate religion. It's just information in my brains that sometimes comes in handy in theological discussions after a few too many with friends
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    Default Why did you choose public/private for your kids schooling?

    I went to a private Church of England school, we had assembly once a week with maybe 1 prayer and scripture class for 1/2 hour a week - that's it, my brothers Anglican school was the same but my nieces private Catholic school has daily prayers/mass and is a lot more religious than ours were

    The school we want to send DS to ( my brothers school) is Anglican, not my ideal but the 99% of the rest the school has to offer is perfect plus they have quite a few Jewish/Muslim/catholic/atheist etc boys attending as being a private school they don't care what religion you are as long as you pay!


 

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