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    Quote Originally Posted by WineTime View Post
    And when people do as you suggest and still get vandalised by little sods 'celebrating' their proud irish traditions, what then?

    Thats the part that ****es me off.
    Call the police, vandalism is vandalism. The police aren't going to say 'oh, too bad, you should've had lollies'.

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    It's So American. Since when has it ever been a big deal in Australia?
    Anywhoo....
    The fact that from 5pm dd turns into a clingy mess of tears, tantrums and is able to turn the house upside down in the 5mins it takes me to heat up her dinner. Inbetween this happening, kids rolling up at the door - me giving them lollies, dd screaming because i said she cant have them untill after her dinner.
    DD's bath time, kids still banging on the door. Me not answering because i have dd in the bath. The dog going psycho - scratched the front door to ****t. Kids hering people are home but not answering - so they walk around the whole house banging on windows. FFS!
    DD finally in bed 7pm. Kids yelling and screaming outside.
    A group of teens roll up at my door WITH BACKPACKS?!?! - ummmm no i dont think so!
    **** off Halloween. seriously.
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    I don't know why people keep saying sassy got egged because she didn't give treats. She said way back they hadn't even knocked at her door. There was no trick or treating. Clearly these kids were hoons looking for an excuse to be vandals. When I lived in Brisbane it happened if the broncos lost a footy game, if Qld lost a state of origin Halloween or no Halloween vandals are often just looking for an excuse to be vandals. Blaming Halloween won't change that.

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    Default THIS is why I hate Halloween!

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    I don't know why people keep saying sassy got egged because she didn't give treats. She said way back they hadn't even knocked at her door. There was no trick or treating. Clearly these kids were hoons looking for an excuse to be vandals. When I lived in Brisbane it happened if the broncos lost a footy game, if Qld lost a state of origin Halloween or no Halloween vandals are often just looking for an excuse to be vandals. Blaming Halloween won't change that.
    Yes, I use to work at Suncorp Stadium.. Oh the joys

    Sassy, I would have called the police.
    Little Sh!ts.. Grr it really gets to me.
    Dd went last night, only because our street dropped off letters during the week saying which houses would and wouldn't be doing it, some also had a BBQ going open to everyone so we could all get to know each other, was a great afternoon.
    It's sad that some drop kicks felt the need to do that to your property.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Miss Muffet View Post
    It's So American. Since when has it ever been a big deal in Australia?
    Anywhoo....
    The fact that from 5pm dd turns into a clingy mess of tears, tantrums and is able to turn the house upside down in the 5mins it takes me to heat up her dinner. Inbetween this happening, kids rolling up at the door - me giving them lollies, dd screaming because i said she cant have them untill after her dinner.
    DD's bath time, kids still banging on the door. Me not answering because i have dd in the bath. The dog going psycho - scratched the front door to ****t. Kids hering people are home but not answering - so they walk around the whole house banging on windows. FFS!
    DD finally in bed 7pm. Kids yelling and screaming outside.
    A group of teens roll up at my door WITH BACKPACKS?!?! - ummmm no i dont think so!
    **** off Halloween. seriously.

    I love Halloween but wow... that would have driven me insane!! I can't believe they'd be so horrible. If someone doesn't answer the door, just leave! Simple.

    So sorry you had to go through that

    Like PPs have said, it's a small few who ruin it for everyone else. All the kids we've ever had at Halloween have been great. The year DD was a baby we put a sign outside saying our newborn was asleep so please don't knock/ring the bell and we had no issues, thank god!

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    Quote Originally Posted by halloweendee View Post
    i love halloween (but then my family is american so i grew up with it).
    but you have to dress up, the rule is only visit houses with decorations or porch lights on, and no vandalism is allowed.

    the origins of trick or treat were actually that the children had to perform a trick (like a song, dance, recite a poem etc.) in order to receive a treat but over the year it has morphed into 'give me a treat or i will play a trick'.

    even then, it is meant to be for people who refuse to give treats - hence if you don't answer your door it doesn't count.

    but it does suck that a few spoil it for the rest. i went to a great community gathering tonight with lots of local kids (and we live rural so it's rare) and they loved it.
    as for halloween in australia, it is originally an irish tradition, taken to america with the pilgrims and it has been in australia for many, many years (just not in shops or commercialised).
    if you celebrate easter or christmas (both taken from pagan festivals) then halloween isn't really that different.
    I have to agree with halloweendee, I'm American and have been living in Australia for 5 years now. I have since had a daughter who will be raised celebrating Halloween, Thanksgiving, and the 4th of July (even if it is in the middle of the damn winter!) along with Australia Day and the Queens birthday.

    Halloween is one of my favorite holidays and it's fun to celebrate. But most of that fun is because most people get into it. So there are usually droves of kids and parents out dressed up trick-or-treating at tons of houses all decked out spooky for Halloween, tons of parties, and a sense that the holiday season is finally starting. Did some peoples houses get TP'd and egged, yes. But this was not the norm and certainly not encouraged. At home if you don't want to participate in Halloween, you leave your porch light off. That bit somehow didn't make it across the Pacific (if you want to believe that's where the holiday came from).

    If you don't want to hand out candy, that's fine, just put a note on your door once you realize it's Halloween and people will leave you alone. We went out yesterday and no one went up to a house where the door was closed let alone a sign and there were a few signs. I also didn't give candy to older kids not in costume. That's not in the spirit of Halloween. Getting vandalized is the fault of bad parenting, not the holiday and to think so is pretty simple minded.

    I'm probably going to open up a whole can of worms saying this but I'm tired of all this Anti-American crap. Not only on this topic but many others as well. I don't understand why a country where 95% of TV are American shows, 80% of the songs on the radio are American artists, and with all the E-Hollywood gossip on the news people are so surprised when American-isms (good and bad) start to invade everyday life. Don't get me wrong, I don't think our ways should take over the world or anything. I love Australia and all it's little nuances (except nappy, I just can't call it a nappy) but American things are popular over here because the Australian people want it that way. And, with the internet being what it is, things are only going to become more integrated across the world.

    So if you don't like our stuff, stop watching our TV (and ripping off our shows), stop listening to our music, stop giving a crap about our celebrities and go watch The Shire quick before we start making you celebrate 4th of July too!! (that was a joke)

    But seriously, if you don't want to celebrate a holiday, don't. If you want to go trick-or-treating, do. It's the same as if you want to celebrate Hanukah over Christmas or Ramadan. Don't blame a holiday or a country for bad parenting and stupid teenagers and save getting upset for something worth getting upset about. Vandals, worth it. Carbon tax, worth it. People attacking your PM and getting away with it, worth it. Rising energy costs, worth it. Holidays, not.

    I'm sorry those little sh*ts wrecked your house. I like the guy coming to the door with eggs. That was awesome. Sorry this was so long.

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    Squiggsmom - I don't get the anti-American sentiment either! Especially as I am English, and Halloween was pretty big over there too...

    Having moved from England to Australia there are heaps of things that I think Australia and America have in common! Even the pronunciation of lots of words, which English people say differently. E.g., 'Yoe-gert' instead of 'yog-ert' and 'dahta' instead of 'dayta'.

    I think there is lots to love about all countries, and one of the things I love best about Australia is how multicultural it is. So whether it's taking on Halloween, or St Patrick's Day, or any other celebration, then I think it's all good fun

    I definitely agree with your point about it marking the start of the holiday season too. In England my favourite time of year was October, as Autumn was starting, there would be pumpkins everywhere, then it was Fireworks Night (Nov 5th) and then Christmas. It was the start of lots of parties and celebrations

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    I totally agree with all that Girl X, even your signature! When people back home ask what's it like living in Australia, I usually say it's like America without all the drama and a better economy! Definitely love the multiculturalism. DD goes to family day care and her carer is Hindi. DD can understand everything the carer says to her husband. I'm not convinced that some of her gibberish isn't Hindi. Never would have gotten that in the States!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SquiggsMom View Post
    I have to agree with halloweendee, I'm American and have been living in Australia for 5 years now. I have since had a daughter who will be raised celebrating Halloween, Thanksgiving, and the 4th of July (even if it is in the middle of the damn winter!) along with Australia Day and the Queens birthday.

    Halloween is one of my favorite holidays and it's fun to celebrate. But most of that fun is because most people get into it. So there are usually droves of kids and parents out dressed up trick-or-treating at tons of houses all decked out spooky for Halloween, tons of parties, and a sense that the holiday season is finally starting. Did some peoples houses get TP'd and egged, yes. But this was not the norm and certainly not encouraged. At home if you don't want to participate in Halloween, you leave your porch light off. That bit somehow didn't make it across the Pacific (if you want to believe that's where the holiday came from).

    If you don't want to hand out candy, that's fine, just put a note on your door once you realize it's Halloween and people will leave you alone. We went out yesterday and no one went up to a house where the door was closed let alone a sign and there were a few signs. I also didn't give candy to older kids not in costume. That's not in the spirit of Halloween. Getting vandalized is the fault of bad parenting, not the holiday and to think so is pretty simple minded.

    I'm probably going to open up a whole can of worms saying this but I'm tired of all this Anti-American crap. Not only on this topic but many others as well. I don't understand why a country where 95% of TV are American shows, 80% of the songs on the radio are American artists, and with all the E-Hollywood gossip on the news people are so surprised when American-isms (good and bad) start to invade everyday life. Don't get me wrong, I don't think our ways should take over the world or anything. I love Australia and all it's little nuances (except nappy, I just can't call it a nappy) but American things are popular over here because the Australian people want it that way. And, with the internet being what it is, things are only going to become more integrated across the world.

    So if you don't like our stuff, stop watching our TV (and ripping off our shows), stop listening to our music, stop giving a crap about our celebrities and go watch The Shire quick before we start making you celebrate 4th of July too!! (that was a joke)

    But seriously, if you don't want to celebrate a holiday, don't. If you want to go trick-or-treating, do. It's the same as if you want to celebrate Hanukah over Christmas or Ramadan. Don't blame a holiday or a country for bad parenting and stupid teenagers and save getting upset for something worth getting upset about. Vandals, worth it. Carbon tax, worth it. People attacking your PM and getting away with it, worth it. Rising energy costs, worth it. Holidays, not.

    I'm sorry those little sh*ts wrecked your house. I like the guy coming to the door with eggs. That was awesome. Sorry this was so long.




    couldn't have said it better!!!

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    Default THIS is why I hate Halloween!

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    couldn't have said it better!!!
    Ditto!!!!!

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