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    Quote Originally Posted by Witchypoo View Post
    JUst more propaganda.



    Every body has challenges, even when you can successfully breastfed it's not all sunshine and roses and this is lovely because it acknowledges this. And in the end it is entirely worth it

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    Default Breastfeeding - beautiful letter from newborn to mum

    I'm not usually into this sort of stuff, and in general articles like this can serve to make women who have 'failed' at breast feeding feel even worse about themselves. But I was surprised that I really loved it, and I felt a bit teary too (damn pregnancy hormones)!

    Even though I've breastfed 5 children so sort of know what's coming with number 6, I'll think back to this article when I'm wondering why bubba wants to nurse so much in those early days.

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    Default Breastfeeding - beautiful letter from newborn to mum

    I think the letter is so beautiful ! I've never breastfed either of my children but I loved it :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PuppyGuts View Post
    i dont like it. I sat in hospital for 5 days struggling to get ds on my boob, constantly failing and i never got those warm fuzzies all i got was anxiety and worry. I have been home 4 days and stay up an extra hour after his feeds to pump and was feeling semi proud of myself for at least being able to give him breastmilk. now i feel like **** after reading that coz it seems its still not good enough <img src="images/smilies/frown.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Frown" smilieid="11" class="inlineimg"

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    This!!!! I hate how mums are made to feel this, it's not fair and it's not right! Less women would feel this way if it wasn't made to sound like you can't bond as well with your baby if FF that you won't feel as good, you aren't giving your baby a good enough start to life etc etc. It's simply not true!

    Medically yes breast is 'best' if you look at it in isolation but a FF baby with a mum free from PND is better than a breastfed baby with a mother with PND. I think there needs to be more focus during pregnancy on educating about PND and a focus postpartum about getting help for it than there should be for breastfeeding IMO. PND if untreated can be unhealthy for mum and bub but FF is not unhealthy at all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CuddlesAwait View Post
    This!!!! I hate how mums are made to feel this, it's not fair and it's not right! Less women would feel this way if it wasn't made to sound like you can't bond as well with your baby if FF that you won't feel as good, you aren't giving your baby a good enough start to life etc etc. It's simply not true!

    Medically yes breast is 'best' if you look at it in isolation but a FF baby with a mum free from PND is better than a breastfed baby with a mother with PND. I think there needs to be more focus during pregnancy on educating about PND and a focus postpartum about getting help for it than there should be for breastfeeding IMO. PND if untreated can be unhealthy for mum and bub but FF is not unhealthy at all!
    This relates to the article how?
    Where does it say ANYTHING you mentioned ?
    It's an article written from a breast fed babies point of view and does highlight the struggles and stresses a mother could and often does experience during learning to breast feed.

    I don't give a damn how someone feeds their child providing it meets their nutritional needs but i really dislike how if someone posts something positive about breastfeeding it's automatically turned into a breast vs formula debate and seen as an attack on formula feeding,

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    Well done Kirby Star!

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    Default Re: Breastfeeding - beautiful letter from newborn to mum

    Yeah - it seems that no matter what is said about breast feeding its an attack against FF or people who could not breast feed for whatever reason.

    Are we not even allowed to acknowledge that its "normal" for breast feeding to be difficult and confusing. Wouldn't an article acknowledging the struggles of breast feeding be reasonably neutral on the bf/FF "debate".

    Or is it simply not okay to discuss breast feeding in any context just in case someone who was unable to, or chose not to breast feed is offended.

    I'm so deeply sorry for anyone who wanted to and couldn't. Probably similar feelings to wanting to birth naturally and couldn't? I have empathy and I'm trying to put this very carefully.

    But if an article like this that acknowledges the inner struggle and confusion and the pressure from outside to just give formula if baby behaves like a *normal* newborn and the doubt from seeing FF babies who feed better and sleep longer, if this "letter" could help other mothers take a breath and get just enough confidence to push through that difficult phase to be able to establish breast feeding - isn't that a good thing?

    And I'm not saying anyone else could have or should have tried harder or that women should breast feed "at all costs".

    But how is it offensive or inappropriate in any way to say "it's okay what's going on is normal and normal to feel confused but this will pass".

    Maybe the only thing the article was missing was a disclaimer of "if baby is lethargic, not having wet nappies, etc seek medical advice" because some babies/mothers genuinely cannot breast feed and Maybe that's what's missing? But while experiencing difficulties is normal not being able to sustain your baby is really uncommon.



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    Default Breastfeeding - beautiful letter from newborn to mum

    I couldn't BF past 4 weeks but I think it's a very sweet article.

    Boobycino says it all above really.

    I think the problem is that those who have successfully BF cannot fathom the guilt and feelings that we have to deal with when we FF (and not should you have to - wouldn't wish it on anyone!).

    Of course BF should be celebrated. After the hell I went through for four weeks I know how damn hard it can be, even without the supply issues I had. It's exhausting and takes serious dedication.

    Just wanted to let you know that not all FF mum's feel the same way

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    i think its good for highlighting the issues of bf like constant eating etc i just dont like the regerences like 'cold hard plastic' and that kind of thing. Its more emotional as opposed to factual for me. cold hard plastic is the only way i could give ds breastmilk and now i feel like i may as well just switch to ff anyway seeing as i wouldnt be able to get the same bond as him being attatched to my nipple

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    Boobycino - Years ago, when I first saw your user name and profile pic (of you feeding), my first thought was that you were going to be very anti-FF and very judgmental toward those who did. That's never been the case. You've always been very passionately pro-BF, but still kind and understanding toward those who (for whatever reason) FF. So I just wanted to say thank you

    I think that those who FF can often (on BH) feel defensive. Not, as is often suggested, because we feel 'guilty' about it, but because time and time again on here it seems that people demonise formula, don't believe someone when they say they couldn't feed, or patronise us ('you just needed more education/ support').

    I have to confess that when I first saw the letter, my thoughts were a bit negative. I didn't post, as I could see why people would like the letter too, and I actually think it's quite sweet. However, I did have a bit of a kneejerk "Ugh. Another one of 'those' things" reaction.

    But I don't think that reaction really belongs in here, in this thread. I can understand why it would make people feel bad, or why it might annoy some people. BUT it's posted in the breastfeeding section, and I can also see why it would make a lot of people feel good about it. So here is the right section for that letter, and I don't really think here is the right section for the negativity towards that (much as I do understand that negativity).

    I think what we really need is a 'celebrate bottlefeeding' section, just as there is one for breastfeeding. I asked a mod if we could have one some time ago, but never got a reply. To my mind THAT would be the section where we post all the things we love about bottlefeeding, and all the positive things about it.

    Anyway, just my two cents...


 

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