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    Default Re: Not believing in Halloween?

    Quote Originally Posted by Little Smile View Post
    I wouldn't bet on that.
    Since I've been here I've seen it go from almost zero interest, to finding it very easy to buy everything I need to celebrate it.
    I agree. I dont remember there ever being as much in the shops and advertising for halloween as there is nowadays. Seems to get more popular each year

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    As it was originally a pagan festival and has a massive spiritual aspect with the thinning of the veil between this world and the spirit world and all the ghosts and all that there is a lot for people to not believe in. Maybe the mother had been pestered about it all day and that was the last straw and that was why she snapped?

    For me personally, I dislike the fact that the meaning behind the line 'trick or treat' is basically one of blackmail. If you dont give us a treat we will play tricks on you. And the only children that did it in my last neighbourhood fully subscribed to this meaning. A lot of houses and cars got egged which wasnt really fair since no one trick or treats in the area till these kids decided to do it one year. No one would have thought to have candy. We gave the kids money to get rid of them.

    I love ghosts and ghouls and the spirit world so I love that aspect of it and there is nothing wrong with dressing up and having fun. To each thier own.

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    We all know that it's NOT an American thing right?

    We all know that its origins are Celtic and actually has both pagan and christian roots???

    Straddling the line between fall and winter, plenty and paucity, life and death, Halloween is a time of celebration and superstition. It is thought to have originated with the ancient Celtic festival of Samhain, when people would light bonfires and wear costumes to ward off roaming ghosts. In the eighth century, Pope Gregory III designated November 1 as a time to honor all saints and martyrs; the holiday, All Saints’ Day, incorporated some of the traditions of Samhain. The evening before was known as All Hallows’ Eve and later Halloween. Over time, Halloween evolved into a secular, community-based event characterized by child-friendly activities such as trick-or-treating. In a number of countries around the world, as the days grow shorter and the nights get colder, people continue to usher in the winter season with gatherings, costumes and sweet treats.

    My two little Irish Catholic kiddos will be dressed as a ghost and a pumpkin and knocking on doors where people have displayed their willingness to participate. Its HUGE in our suburb. Loads of Celts. Lucky us!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tildy View Post
    For me personally, I dislike the fact that the meaning behind the line 'trick or treat' is basically one of blackmail. If you dont give us a treat we will play tricks on you. And the only children that did it in my last neighbourhood fully subscribed to this meaning. A lot of houses and cars got egged which wasnt really fair since no one trick or treats in the area till these kids decided to do it one year. No one would have thought to have candy. We gave the kids money to get rid of them.
    I totally agree.
    'Help the Halloween party' is what we said going door to door.
    Back in my day, we got fruit and nuts, not sweets and chocolate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raising Leprechauns View Post
    My two little Irish Catholic kiddos will be dressed as a ghost and a pumpkin and knocking on doors where people have displayed their willingness to participate. Its HUGE in our suburb. Loads of Celts. Lucky us!
    I'll have a scary skeleton and a Mummy

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    Quote Originally Posted by Little Smile View Post
    I totally agree.
    'Help the Halloween party' is what we said going door to door.
    Back in my day, we got fruit and nuts, not sweets and chocolate.
    The lady around the corner always dresses up as a witch and hands out apples and toothbrushes. The kids LOVE her!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimTamsandTea View Post
    We celebrate anything and everything here ... but not Halloween.
    Skeletons, witches, ghosts - everything associated with this event is just so dark and dreary.
    I don't see anything wrong with what the mum said to her children. She snapped at her kids? Not nice, you're right. But just how many times had she patiently responded to her kids requests before she got a little narky?

    I never said there was a problem with what the lady I saw in Big W said....she has every right to believe what she likes and teach her children these beliefs. I do not know about her day, I don't know that her son hadn't had this explained 100 times, nor that she may have had a headache....any number of things! It simply brought to my attention a negative attitude towards Halloween I thought it might be fun to discuss what others thought. I did, however, feel like not believing in Halloween was an odd way to put it.

    In the original post it doesn't say I Judged or disagreed with her, I'm not sure why some have inferred that

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    Quote Originally Posted by darla87 View Post
    I never said there was a problem with what the lady I saw in Big W said....she has every right to believe what she likes and teach her children these beliefs. I do not know about her day, I don't know that her son hadn't had this explained 100 times, nor that she may have had a headache....any number of things! It simply brought to my attention a negative attitude towards Halloween I thought it might be fun to discuss what others thought. I did, however, feel like not believing in Halloween was an odd way to put it.

    In the original post it doesn't say I Judged or disagreed with her, I'm not sure why some have inferred that
    I completely agree that it's an odd thing to say. I doubt anyone who celebrates Halloween "believes" in goblins, ghouls and ghosts.

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    Default Re: Not believing in Halloween?

    Quote Originally Posted by darla87 View Post
    I was just at big w. A mum was there with two small children, maybe 5 and 7, when the older boy says he wants a pumpkin lolly holder. You know the type kids take around for trick or treating. The mum snapped at him "we don't believe in Halloween, I don't expect you to understand but we don't".

    To me, while not big in Australia, Halloween seems harmless. I think trick or treating with supervision is ok, and everyone loves dressing up!

    I don't have school aged kids though so maybe I'm more relaxed. What do you think?
    Haha.. I was in big w on wednesday with my 5 &7 year olds and the 7 year old grabbed one of those pumpkin lolly holders and made some mention of it being stupid and american and i agreed with him.
    I do wonder if this thread is about me... Only mild differences in what happened..lol

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    i'd take halloween over christmas or easter any day!!


 

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