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    Quote Originally Posted by darla87 View Post
    I was just at big w. A mum was there with two small children, maybe 5 and 7, when the older boy says he wants a pumpkin lolly holder. You know the type kids take around for trick or treating. The mum snapped at him "we don't believe in Halloween, I don't expect you to understand but we don't".

    To me, while not big in Australia, Halloween seems harmless. I think trick or treating with supervision is ok, and everyone loves dressing up!

    I don't have school aged kids though so maybe I'm more relaxed. What do you think?
    Didnt read any replies but will go back and do so soon. Just replying to OP.

    I think "we dont buy into it" is more appropriate wording than 'believe' in this situation. Seems that in this country some people want to do it and are right into it...and some really dont. I do get a laugh out of people who are soo bothered by one night of children knocking on their doors, but I guess everyone has their reasons.

    Personally, we let DS dress up and go Trick or Treating. He knows that some people dont do it so dont have candy, so he doesnt get upset if he gets a few (or alot) of knock backs. We always buy candy and hand it out to kids that are in costume

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    I am all for organised parties and dressing up, its fun for kids and adults alike.

    I think its cute if parents/grandparents are out walking pre dark with little kids all dressed up and I do have some lollies about the place for that but last year as well as this we had pre teens turning up late in regular clothes demanding lollies just because its a certain date.

    My hubby sometimes works nights and I don't usually answer the door after dark but tend the find that on the 31st October people seem to think its ok to continue to knock demanding their free snack.

    I don't frown upon all cultural events but I can't think of another one where strangers are expected to provide lollies for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlissedOut View Post
    Because it's a pagan celebration.

    But for us it's scary things, fun and lollies. We also celebrate Diwali without the Hindu aspect, like many people celebrate Christmas and Easter without the Christian aspect.
    I am really ignorant about all this but I still don't follow. If you read the history of Halloween it was actually adopted by Christians in the 9th centuary when it was incorporated with All Saints Day. It became a time for honouring the saints and praying for the recently departed who had yet to reach Heaven. Pope Gregory IV ordered its church-wide observance in 837. By the end of the 12th century they had become holy days of obligation across Europe and involved such traditions as ringing bells for the souls in purgatory and "souling".

    Anywho I'm sure I'll be corrected (and no offence to anyone's beliefs) but I actually find the history of Halloween very interesting. Trick or treating has actually been around since the middle ages when the poor would go from door to door on holidays asking for food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FearlessLeader View Post
    Are you sure they're not American? Their mum calls lollies 'candy'

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    Well played... I like your style. They're not American... I think I consumed enough candy I might be? Lol.

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    Default Not believing in Halloween?

    We don't partake in halloween festivities and its not something ill encourage for my children.

    Last year we had a few kids ring the doorbell which was fine although i had nothing on hand to give them. Later in the night a group of teenager came down our street smashing pot plants etc out the front of any house that didnt give them treats or if they didnt like the treats!
    Thats left a bad taste about it for me.

    We now live rural so doubt we'll ever get halloween door knockers out here

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    I wouldn't poo-poo Hanukkah to a Jewish person, I wouldn't poo-poo Christmas to a Christian or Ramadan to a Muslim. Halloween is a thing in our house, although it's not just sugar and cheesy decorations.

    Halloween is another celebration. It's over-commercialized just like it many other celebrations are these days.
    Basically I look at it the same way as I look at any other annual celebration. You can be a stick in the mud, boring and grumpy bum about it, or you can throw your hands up in the air and say "You know what? I'm going to wear a witches hat and put pumpkins on my front doorstep and skeletons on my gate and I'm going to ENJOY IT!" hehehehe.

    As a side note, I find it kind of amusing that a Christian friend of mine sticks her nose in the air and says "But Halloween isn't a real thing, it's just a commercialized clusterf*&k from another country!" and yet spends HOURS talking about Christmas decorations and what presents she's going to buy for her family and friends.
    I'm not sure how she came to the belief that Christmas originated in Australia and that candy canes are any different to candy apples!
    Oh that's right, it's based on HER religion which actually makes it REAL...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    I am really ignorant about all this but I still don't follow. If you read the history of Halloween it was actually adopted by Christians in the 9th centuary when it was incorporated with All Saints Day. It became a time for honouring the saints and praying for the recently departed who had yet to reach Heaven. Pope Gregory IV ordered its church-wide observance in 837. By the end of the 12th century they had become holy days of obligation across Europe and involved such traditions as ringing bells for the souls in purgatory and "souling".

    Anywho I'm sure I'll be corrected (and no offence to anyone's beliefs) but I actually find the history of Halloween very interesting. Trick or treating has actually been around since the middle ages when the poor would go from door to door on holidays asking for food.
    Then I have no clue ... maybe one of the anti-Halloween Christians can come let us know.

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    Default Not believing in Halloween?

    Before I read his thread I would have said that its and American tradition that I won't encourage with DS. Though after reading I can see that it's a bit of harmless fun strongly with a long history Have I admit I love good dress up event and lollies. I do resent the commercialisation of it all though, but I hate that with a lot of things.

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    Default Re: Not believing in Halloween?

    Quote Originally Posted by BlissedOut View Post
    Then I have no clue ... maybe one of the anti-Halloween Christians can come let us know.
    Halloween was adopted by the catholic church to appeal to the masses and to bring pagans and christians together.

    But i believe some christians are against it due to its affiliation with the occult ( as a pp mentioned) and because they feel its unscriptual as the bible warns against spiritism and the like

    Hope this helps
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    Default Not believing in Halloween?

    It might have something to do with their religion? I have friends who believe it's satanic.


 

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