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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Views are based on assumptions and are guided by the pack mentality.
    Having read all the thread yet but, I base my views concerning Abbott on the bile that spews forth from his mouth. No assumptions or rumours or Labor rhetoric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    And you don't need ru486 to have one either.
    So rather than having a medical termination, those dirty girls should be punished by having to endure an invasive surgical procedure?

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    The simple fact that an action could be brought against him under the Sex Discrimination Act, says it all for me. At the end of the day our opinion of whether he is sexist or not wont come into play. If Our PM felt discrimated against or harassed on the basis of her gender then she or any other woman in a similar situation would be entitled to bring an action under the previously mentioned Act, so one can argue that he isn't sexist and that's the "nature" of their job, but legally, that isn't necessarily the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pegasus View Post
    the bit about cutting single parent pensions.
    I am so perplexed as to why everyone is up in arms about this now. This is old news and has been around since 2006.

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    Views are based on assumptions and are guided by the pack mentality.
    I base my opinions on Abbott on the bile that continually spewed from his mouth. Not assumptions, not rumours and not Labor rhetoric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Bec~ View Post
    No this is true but you do need access to suitable facilities, finance, etc. You also need to undergo an invasive and expensive procedure that may also leave you traumatized. Otherwise I suppose you could go the coat hanger route or the bottle of gin and hot bath. There's also the fierce punch to the stomach or being pushed down some stairs (For those that don't have access to a safe abortion or the money to fund it.)
    I don't think you need to joke about it like you are. This subject is still a little sensitive with me. I know what you mean with the accessibility and financial side. But I don't think it is a bad thing to make it a little harder to achieve. It at least makes you think long and hard about the decision.

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    And you don't need ru486 to have one either.<img src="images/smilies/confused.gif" border="0" alt="" title="Confused" smilieid="10" class="inlineimg"
    No you don't but surgical and medical abortions have different risk factors and the medical option gives women the choice to abort in the privacy of their own home.

    They both cost the same (in WA).

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    I think the whole 'show me how he hates women' debate is irrelevant. He clearly believes women are not equal to men, are not as capable and deserving of respect in positions of authority. I don't care if he actually hates women or merely thinks of them in a condescending and offensive manner. The distinction is just semantics.

    Fact is, his views are offensive, and the wày the PM has been treated by many, including him, is appalling. She cops a lot of gender based flack and its time that stopped. Its not funny and its not clever.

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    Not sure what is going on. My posts don't seem to be going up??? There may end up being some repetition.
    I'm having the same issues.

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    Some woman are forced to have abortions by their boyfriends/partners who prefer to take the easy way out. Yes, sometimes it's the woman who choses to do so, but often you'll find that it is the man who will threaten the woman and unborn child with physical/mental abuse if the woman does not have abortion.
    When I told my sons dad that I was pregnant first thing he said was "got to find the number of the abortion clinic".
    When I said I had no intension of aborting we got the "I dont want this kid! I will hate it for life! I will quite my job and go on the dole so you wont get 1 cent!'
    After telling him I didnt care, he took it 1 step further "I will MAKE you abort one way or another you hear me!??!?!'

    I kept my son and lucky found my husband not long after giving birth. He took my son as his own.

    Also if TA would make an election promise (and keep it) of increasing the single parent payment, than maybe women would have more choice in the matter. It would enable them to provide a more stable upbringing for the child while parenting on thier own.

    TA doesnt realize you cant have it both ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    I don't think you need to joke about it like you are. This subject is still a little sensitive with me. I know what you mean with the accessibility and financial side. But I don't think it is a bad thing to make it a little harder to achieve. It at least makes you think long and hard about the decision.
    Making it harder to achieve doesnt prevent abortions it simply makes it more traumatic. Keeping it at a high cost just ensures that only those that can afford them have them forcing lower income earners to have babies they can't afford to abort and don't want how on earth is that good?

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