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    Ok all not good, my fn couldn't get hold of the FS she wanted to speak to so had to ring another one, (have a feeling she wanted to speak to the first one because she thought she would tell be to go ahead). He has said he would advice to cancel the cycle, I have just been in tears its just not what I wanted to hear . I have the overdril at home and my fn has said that if I decided to go ahead then the onus of having quads is not on them as they advise to cancel. Something tells me she would advice differently though and would say go ahead - I spoke to 2 nurses while I was there today who both had the opinion that I had 3 last time and didn't catch any so all should be good. The FS said though that the two follies at 16 would be at 18 at ovulation where as last time they were only 16 and unlikely to develop. Apparently I am going to start on a lower dose next cycle and see if that helps.

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    Heyside- I'm so sorry to hear that. It is just so frustrating and difficult to be told your cycle has to be cancelled. Have you made a decision what you are going to do or is it not in your hands? Sending you Big hugs hun

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    Hi Ladies May I join you all in this thread.

    My journey so far I found out I have PCOS its not severe so FS started me on Clomid and currently on round 6 of 50mg. First round went well and got some follicles but didn't quiet ovulate, Second round did a trigger shot, Third round same again trigger shot and IUI still wasn't successful I was really bummed as I was naive enough to believe it would work first time. Round four had some decent follicles and ovulated by myself on CD 16. I had told my FS I didn't want to do another IUI until maybe cycle after or towards end of year maybe as it was expensive and would rather go on to try IVF in the new year if timed intercourse and maybe one more IUI didnt work. Round five had to visit a different FS as mine was away on holidays and she does CD 10 scan and then bloods leading up to O well she wouldnt give me the trigger shot as she said looked like I wouldn't O myself this month as follicles were only 14mm on CD 10 I told her that I normally get CD12 scans and the follicles had been between 16mm - 18mm she then proceed to say that she works off bloods. I monitored with OPK's and looked like i did ovulate on CD 21 hence why I have the trigger shot normally. So that cycle was a complete waste.

    Currently on Round 6 and CD3 today have a scan booked in for CD 9 with my regular fertility specialist so will most likely trigger shot again was considering doing IUI but as its $970 each IUI DH and i dont think its worth it since it didnt work on first go actually read up about DIY Home insemination kits and considering trying that as its not expensive at all.

    Have 2 more cycles to go till New year and I think we will move onto IVF then if these last few cycles don't work.

    Anyone else considering IVF path? I know its really costly but believe you can claim some of it back just don't know how much and I know have to have reached the medicare saftey net which will restart in the New Year and we had almost reached it now so considering maybe talking to FS about doing it either this cycle or next one before New Year. So confusing and really not sure what path to take next.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heyside View Post
    Ok all not good, my fn couldn't get hold of the FS she wanted to speak to so had to ring another one, (have a feeling she wanted to speak to the first one because she thought she would tell be to go ahead). He has said he would advice to cancel the cycle, I have just been in tears its just not what I wanted to hear . I have the overdril at home and my fn has said that if I decided to go ahead then the onus of having quads is not on them as they advise to cancel. Something tells me she would advice differently though and would say go ahead - I spoke to 2 nurses while I was there today who both had the opinion that I had 3 last time and didn't catch any so all should be good. The FS said though that the two follies at 16 would be at 18 at ovulation where as last time they were only 16 and unlikely to develop. Apparently I am going to start on a lower dose next cycle and see if that helps.
    Hi Heyside

    I had had 3 follicles on one of my cycles and FS let me go ahead with the cycle he said that 3 was his limit well i was excited and thought that this was going to happen and I was doing an IUI as well so was so positive but well BFN. Really got me thinking.

    I believe its our journey and we have the right to choose okay so Ughhhhh if you get quads you would deal DH and I discussed what we would do if we had a situation like this and decided that if we failed with a cycle of 3 follicles and and IUI if we had more follicles and FS told us to cancel we would ignore but said 4 is the most we would do. I personally feel that with more follicles the better the chance you have of just catching one or two even not that it will be multiples and well if it is then so be it.

    There is a video on you tube called "The great sperm race" if you haven't seen it watch it the perspective it gives you on TTC is amazing and the actual chances of it all happening is like insane after i watched it I decided I was going to take on board the advice of the FS but also make self informed decisions based on what I know my body is doing and how it's reacting to all these drugs etc...
    I hope it works out for you and you can decide what to do

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    Maranoa- Hi there!! Yes the scans are internal ultrasounds that check your uterine lining aim for >6 ideally >8mm, plus the size and number of follicles on each ovary. Are you looking at starting OI??

    Twinkley- Welcome! sounds like you've had a frustrating path so far cancelling at d10 does sound early- i had a d14 scan (the first scan this cycle!). On this thread we are all on injectable ovulation induction rather than Clomid, using rFSH (I'm on gonal F)with a trigger with HCG (Ovidrel or Pregnyl). Some of us are using IUI and other TI (I'm TI only). Do you think you will go onto injectables before you go to IVF??

    This is my 4th and last cycle of OI before I shift to IVF- My FS initially suggested 3 cycles but my first 2 were cancelled we decided to give it one more. I'm seeing my specialist tomorrow to discuss IVF so I'll keep everyone updated. As far as the medicare claim back, I was given a guide to prices when we signed up I think it differs depending where you are though??

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    Quote Originally Posted by rj85 View Post
    Maranoa- Hi there!! Yes the scans are internal ultrasounds that check your uterine lining aim for >6 ideally >8mm, plus the size and number of follicles on each ovary. Are you looking at starting OI??

    Twinkley- Welcome! sounds like you've had a frustrating path so far cancelling at d10 does sound early- i had a d14 scan (the first scan this cycle!). On this thread we are all on injectable ovulation induction rather than Clomid, using rFSH (I'm on gonal F)with a trigger with HCG (Ovidrel or Pregnyl). Some of us are using IUI and other TI (I'm TI only). Do you think you will go onto injectables before you go to IVF??

    This is my 4th and last cycle of OI before I shift to IVF- My FS initially suggested 3 cycles but my first 2 were cancelled we decided to give it one more. I'm seeing my specialist tomorrow to discuss IVF so I'll keep everyone updated. As far as the medicare claim back, I was given a guide to prices when we signed up I think it differs depending where you are though??
    I'll PM you to explain its a bit involved.

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    Far-out! How have I missed so much?! I hope I don't miss anyone.......

    Welcome Mrs Hopeful I conceived my DD on my second FSH/IUI cycle so it can definitely happen so don't lose hope....easier said than done, I know. I wouldn't say it gets easier but maybe you get over the disappointments and start looking towards the next cycle faster(?)....though I hope you don't even reach that stage. I have definitely found the support of others who know exactly what you are going through both when I was TTC#1 and now #2, to be super helpful. Good luck in your journey, I hope it's a short one to success

    Rj85 - Bleh....I was hoping I would miss out on the Metformin side affects as I've been taking one tablet/day for months but nope, not that lucky apparently. Wow, 27mm...I've always wondered what would happen if I never had my trigger, I just figured I'd eventually O. It's still early days so I wouldn't go counting yourself out yet. I bet there are plenty of success stories out there from big follies for sure!


    Heyside - Shoot hun, that freak'n sucks What do you reckon you're going to do? I honestly don't know what I would choose to do in your situation....maybe if it was my 1st, maaaaybe risk it? We'll be top of the class if we end up in IVF world huh. Follie-producing machines. Sucks, sucks, sucks and SO not fair that this all has to be so darn hard for us. Huge cyber-huuugs xoxo You know, I think (think?) I may be feeling something going on with my higher FSH dose? Friday will tell for sure I guess. I don't know why but I have a growing suspicion that I'll over-stim also as I seemed to have lot of 7-8mm follies on both sides on Monday. Has it happened since or....how did noone pic up on the location of your ovaries and your tilted uterus while you were TTC your dd and throughout your pregnancy?!

    Welcome on board Twinkley - Fingers crossed this is your lucky cycle. Have you had a hysterosalpingogram at some stage? Or does your FS have any ideas about why you seem to be O'ing but no BFP? I hope you guys catch that elusive egg this cycle I'm heading into IVF world in the New Year (because this cycle is shaping up to be the longest cycle ever and the Chrissy break will get in the way of moving onto IVF next month) but you do bring up a very good point about the safety net. Hmmm....you have me thinking now!

    AFM - CD18 today and I have another scan and blood test on Friday. I've been pretty crook with my increase dosage of Metformin and I think I might be feeling something with my increase up to 75 of FSH/day but hopefully it hasn't worked too much!
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    rj85 - Keep us updated on the IVF details but hopefully you catch that nice big juicy follie .

    Twinkley - Welcome to the thread, sounds like you have been through some very stressful cycles with the clomid (sucks doesn't it). The cost is definitely guiding some of our decisions at the moment too, we were in a much better position when ttc dd but just not the case this time around, fingerscrossed that this is your cycle and you get your bfp. Thanks for the advice on my cycle, have read so many similar stories online about bfn with multiple follicles so it has me thinking too!

    Maranoa - Sounds like a very pro-active step for future ttc you are taking which is great, good luck hun x

    Ladydee - Thanks for the support hun, yeah definitely sucks!!!! Would be nice to be at the top of the class for a change if we go onto IVF, feeling pretty annoyed at the whole situation with my body just not working at the mo - so many ladies don't have any of this rubbish to deal with like we do! Great that you are feeling some action with your follies, hopefully you will see some good growth on Friday but not too much. In regards to my tilted uterus I vaguely remember it as a passing comment when ttc dd, my ovaries haven't always been on one side, as I remember scans from last time ttc and they were definitely clearly on different sides, but have read they can move through pregnancy and labour (don't think it will cause any issues, just strange lol!!). Hope the met becomes easier for you to handle hun, do you find what you eat influences how it effects you?

    AFM - Ok firstly I have to apologise for taking so much of the board up today after my very stressful and emotional day. DH and I have had a very big discussion about what to do and how we feel about all situations. We are a little annoyed about how the clinic have dealt with the whole situation but that's another matter. One of the biggest things that has influenced our decision is the fact that I don't think my fn really wanted to ask advice from this FS as she knew what his decision was going to be, if she had spoken to my FS I would have been happier to just follow his advice. Seen as we tried with 3 follicles last cycle and got a bfn we have decided to go ahead with the trigger but only bd on Friday which will be the day of ovulation, if it is meant to be with the one try then it is meant to be, lets just hope we catch two at most. DD has been so cute today, I was so upset when I came off the phone from the fn and she came and gave me the biggest hug 'you upset mummy?, is that better?' She then saw me reading through the multiple pregnancy risk info the clinic had given me and said 'That book make you sad too mummy'. Just reminds me of why we are going through all this - would love to give her a little brother of sister sooner rather than later. Thanks again everyone for all the support today, what would I do without you girls

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    rj85: good luck with this cycle. Fingers crossed it's the one that works for you. 1 big egg surely will be easy to find ;-)

    Twinkley: welcome, I am also looking at the IVF path and have an appt to discuss that in Dec, it is definitely a cost thing for me as I can't afford to keep doing IUI so we're giving it 2 goes then onto IVF. Hopefully neither of us have to go there tho! Fingers crossed.

    Ladydee: thanks for the glimmer of hope, it's hard to feel positive when there's not much positive happening. It's nice to hear that it does actually work. Hope you have had something happening in there but not too much. Fingers crossed!

    Heyside: I had a tear in my eye when I read that about your DD. How cute. That is what makes me so upset at times too when I see my DS and how much he'd love a brother or sister. If I was in your situation now I would do the same thing. Having a track record for not being able to fertilize 1 or even 2 eggs at a time then I'd think that surely having 4 it's gotta make the chances pretty high of getting just 1! I have everything crossed that you're in with a big chance this time x

    AFM: I am currently on cd7. Last cycle I used Puregon 75iu on cd4-10, then scan on cd10 which showed 2 follies 1 x 16mm and 1 x 18mm so had Ovidrel trigger shot on cd10 with IUI on cd11. No idea what my bloods were.
    This cycle we are doing the same but injecting an extra day so scan on cd11 to see if we can get them a bit bigger, and if all is ok then IUI on day 12.

    I have no issues, I have a regular cycle, tubes are open & clear, and DH has great sperm so it's a bit of unexplained secondary infertility so far. We have a 4yo DS conceived naturally without even trying! Which is what makes this all so much harder to understand.

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    Heyside- Your daughter sounds so cute!! I'm glad you guys have made a decision that is right for you, now we can be TWW buddies, hopefully Ladydee isn't far behind! I have my fingers crossed that you will have 1 of those beautiful follies meet it's match and make a beautiful brother or sister for your DD.

    Ladydee- I know, I was away browsing another forum for like 20min after I posted and then all of a sudden our post has gone from crickets to party town!! The more the merrier I say. You poor thing and that yucky metformin, hopefully it is all worth it though and this is your cycle, looking forward to hearing good news about your scans and bt tomorrow.

    Mrs Hopeful- you aren't too far behind the rest of us, your BT and scan is on mon right? It must be very frustrating not knowing what is the cause of your infertility- have you had a laparoscopy at all? And it looks like quite a few of us are at the stage of going to IVF after this cycle- so we can all do it together!

    Maranoa- It's good you are being proactive, if you have any other questions don't be afraid to ask.

    Twinkley- I'll PM you, I just sent you a mega long response and my login timed out so I have to do it again!

    AFM- So saw my FS today- He said he wasn't worried about my follie being 27 as my bloods were all good- specifically my oestrogen suggested that the follie was just right, My oestrogen had been 170- d9, 560 D12 and 1080 D14 (yesterday), so I wouldn't have been able to trigger any earlier anyway.

    I have been given a diagnosis- hypogonadotropic hypogonadism- essentially the hormones my brain is supposed to release- LH and FSH aren't being released hence the need for both the FSH and low dose pregnyl to acheive anything.

    Finally I'm signed up for IVF but wont start the cycle until Jan as need that preparation month. I will be on a down-reg cycle using synarel a nasal spray that stops you from ovulating on your own because of the multiple follicle IVF produces. I found out a few things about IVF- 1. My clinic makes you have a month off after a fresh cycle to allow your body to recover. 2. If you have excess embryos- (they aim to harvest 10 follies and hope a few fertilize- leaving a few left over that they can freeze) you can do frozen cycles- which are like OI in terms of the meds you use and frozen cycles can be done back to back as you aren't being hyperstimulated and aren't going through egg collection.
    3. I also got a better idea of cost- I saw a lady specifically about the costings and she went through it all, it's probably different at every clinic but at mine IVF is about $7500> with medicare rebate of $5000> so out of pocket is $2500, plus extra costs for hospital surgery fees and anaesthetist. Also it is cheaper doing subsequent IVF cycles within the same calendar year due to increased medicare rebate and it's also cheaper to do a frozen cycle, though there is a cost associated with freezing your embies and I'm not sure if the success rates are equivalent or not?? Anyway that's enough talking from me.


 

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