My judgement also seems to line up nicely with the AAP's - who state that the benefits DO outweigh the risks. You seem again to be ignoring that the RACP states that parents are in the best position to determine the benefits. Here is the quote again.... in its entirety.
After reviewing the currently available evidence, the RACP believes that the frequency of diseases modifiable by circumcision, the level of protection offered by circumcision and the complication rates of circumcision do not warrant routine infant circumcision in Australia and New Zealand. However it is reasonable for parents to weigh the benefits and risks of circumcision and to make the decision whether or not to circumcise their sons.
I have just stated the purpose of the final sentence. Are you being deliberately vague?
But yes, continue referring to the AAP
Last edited by Witwicky; 02-10-2012 at 14:15.
This definition of routine is not only "logical", but any other reading would render illogical a large body of medical literature, including the very first recommendation by the Australian Paediatric Association.
But, anyway, I'm more interested in the ethical issue, which strikes me as central to the entire debate.
If you want to debate it on medical grounds, you know where to find me. Enjoy your narrowed down debate.
This is not a narrowing but a broadening of the debate.
As for the potential medical benefits, clearly the RACP does not agree, at least as far as the Australian context is concerned, even though they considered the same evidence base. Presumably, that's what Australian parents should take into account, rather than the HIV risk for African Americans attending a Baltimore STI clinic.
A parent HAS the right to make any decision for their child..if we say they doint where do we stop? how the child is birthed? how its fed?
I have not come across very many uncirc'd men in my experiences, and nor do i know of any who sit around and complain of the fact they were done :s
RIC isnt a medical necessity.
Im sure if i came on here stating im going to get my sons perfectly fine tonsils, appendix removed just because as a parent i have that right there would be an uproar.
Whats the difference?
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