I'm so sorry to hear that you got a BFN. Hopefully your appt with Dr Ong will give you some answers.
I'm so sorry to hear that you got a BFN. Hopefully your appt with Dr Ong will give you some answers.
I'm so sorry Betty. Having a chemical pregnancy and all the hope and worry that goes along with it is just horrible. Sending you our thoughts. Hang in there though lovely as I know it feels like this just will never happen but it does and can happen. Your lucky round might be the next one. It only takes one good embryo to stick it out. I hope Dr Ong gives you all the answers and information you need and a plan to go forward.
Nic - how did your scan go? are you onto your jabs now? When do you think egg pick up will be? Is it an antagonist cycle again? We have our fingers crossed for you.
Kate - I agree, don't be so hard on yourself. A few drinks won't make a difference. Sometimes you need to let lose. This is a bumpy ride and you are absolutely entitled to your emotional moments too. There is nothing better than having a good cry sometimes.
AFM - all seems ok at the moment. Kate has been feeling sicker and sicker so we assume her levels are still rising and doing what they are meant to. We have our 9 wk scan tomorrow. I'm not feeling any where near as anxious as for our first scan so hopefully I can enjoy it more this time round!!
I hope you don't mind that I drop in say hi. I have been finding your thread pop up now again as I have been researching the best place on the Gold Coast for IVF. So you have already been a big help. Thanks!
Basically my lovely DH and I have been trying for nearly 2 years now. DH had a vasectomy 12 years ago and we had the reversal 2 years ago at Miami. It all seeemd to have worked great with amazing results coming back and DH was walking around with his chest out proud that he had 7 x the amount of sperm as a normal male.
So we had been trying naturally (you know trying every move in the books) and seeing Sharkeys healing centre for over a year etc etc but with no pregnancy. Then we got more thorough tests done and although DH has plenty of sperm he has 98% antibodies and 67% DNA fragmentation.
We always thought our problems were with DH's sperm so when they found out I too had polyps they explored further. Turns out I also have endometriosis . I had all this taken out in August and we are hoping to do our first round of IVF with Dr Ong in Jan.
Throughout the process I have also seen Dr Dutt at City fertility. The nurses were great but I had to wait nearly 2hrs every time to see Dr Dutt and I found he did not explain things clearly. I am told he is a great surgeon but considering the emotional nature of IVF and infertility I fely I needed someone who was more empathetic.
We also started the process with Springwood the low cost fertility centre (they are so much cheaper) but when I called up in November to book our cycle they told me I now had to go on the pill (before it was optional). They wanted me to go on the pill for 2 months before trying - which seemed really strange and it did not sit comfortably with me. After asking around everyone tells me this is an old school practice. (I still hold onto the hope that we might be that couple that concieve out of the IVF cycle and by going on the pill that's impossible).
So Dr Ong it is.
DH is back from working away next Monday so we are having our nurse visits etc then.
I do have a few questions for you all:
How much more expensive is Monash to CFC?
Has anyone done PICSI?
What are the nurses like at Monash?
Any tips on claiming expenses back through private health or medicare?
Thanks ladies for having such a lovely supportive thread running. Its has been nice to be able read and share in your personal stories. It's always comforting to know that your not alone.
(I will work out all the ackronyms as we go).
Sorry ladies one more thing...
Has anyone using Dr Ong done a 3 day transfer?
I know all the studies show that 5 days is better but my partner was brought up as a JW so he has certain views as to the whole IVF process. We are lucky in that he is ok with the freezing, washing with blood etc but he would prefer to do a 3 day transfer. What are all your thoughts on this?
Dr Ong was quite adamant we need to do it at day 5.
I think Monash's policy is 5 days only. I might PM you about some of your other questions.
Last edited by BettyW; 04-12-2012 at 16:37.
I had a successful first cycle with dr Ong. Don't get me wrong, I am completely aware of how lucky I was to get it on the first go, but just goes to show that it really can happen.
My husband has an extremely low sperm count, he did 2 samples, first one was less than 200k, second was less than 100k. So low that they were never able to test his sperm so we went into it completely blind as to the quality of it. My amh is 9.2, otherwise im perfectly fine.
The nurses work in teams going by your last name, our nurse was teneka. She is an absolute sweetheart. Even though you have your allocated 'nurse' you only deal with them a few times. They are just there if you have any concerns or questions, you have to speak with your nurse. When you go in in the mornings to have your bloods done, any nurse that is there will do them, then your nurse will call you with the results. Apart from running through the process when you start that's really the only times you really deal with your nurse.
The other nurses seem nice too but I'm really happy I had teneka.
I don't know the costs of city fertility, but at Monash I paid around $8500 in two installments, first one when I started then the second the morning of my egg collection. I got around $5000 back from Medicare but you do need to wait till the end of your process to claim back, i.e positive or negative pregnancy test, because Monash won't actually give you your itemised receipt until then.
You then have to send the claim into Medicare and it takes a week or so for the money to come back. even if you lodge your receipts in a Medicare office, they send it off as well. It's a good idea to start in jan cause then you get the benefit of the full year to claim with your Medicare safety net already reached. Your private insurance will only cover allamandas theatre fees for your egg collection.
Yes, Monash as far as I am aware will only transfer 5 day blastocysts. In my opinion that is better because personally I would rather have the embryo not make it to blastocyst in a petrie dish rather than implanted in me and have to deal with a miscarriage. We only had one embryo survive to blastocyst, well technically two but the second didn't have the inner cell mass inside which is the baby. So our one little embryo was our miracle.
I can only say positive things about dr Ong and Monash. I had my moments during the process when I would get angry at some of there processes but I now realise that dr Ong and the scientists know exactly what they are doing. And don't think they they don't have your best interests in mind because they still have their success rates that they want to look good, so the more negative results they get is not good for them, so they will do whatever they can to make sure you do get pregnant!
Hope that helps???
Feel free to ask as many questions as you like, as I only went through it once I don't know a great deal about the technical side of things but I'm happy to answer anything I do know.
Maybe some of the other girls here can share their experiences with some of the other clinics?
Last edited by Goldie77; 04-12-2012 at 11:47.
Betty- huge big hugs...I'm so sorry xo
TK- hope your scan went well today!!
Tryingtobepositive- sorry I'm no help with mo ash but welcome to the thread, look forward to chatting with you .
AFM- af arrived! So should be able to start my next cycle in 4 weeks. Just waiting for a call back from the nurses to check on getting more sperm, whether I'll be on clomid again or whether I was suppose to book another appoint with my FS between now & then?? one positive about not getting a BFP is not having morning sickness through the heat of summer lol. It's so HOT!!
*monash sorry for iPad auto correct lol
I can't PM you positive -- probably because you're a new member?
I saw Dr Dutt before our second miscarriage (natural pregnancy) and quite liked him, he performed my D&C. I chose not to go to him for IVF though because he was always so busy and I wanted a specialist who just focussed on reproductive technologies, not an obstetrician who dabbles in IVF.
So I went Monash too. To be honest I haven't loved our nurse. She's been somewhat condescending in how she talks to you. Maybe if you had done less obsessive reading than I have you would appreciate her methodical approach? I also felt like I wasn't really taken seriously last week when I described what was happening. I understand they have dozens of patients and for each person what is happening to them is a big deal, I just felt kind of left out in the cold. I really like Dr Ong but after the initial appointments you don't see much of him. Funnily enough I really liked Rodney, the scientist I dealt with. He was awesome. Overall I'm still happy with Monash -- though that might change after Wednesday if they don't let me cycle before January!!
Hi ladies. I'm in a bit of a hurry and on my iPhone so wil just stick to replying to tryingtobepositive.
welcome tryingtobepositive - I'm sorry that you need to be here but if you're going to go through this then you're in the right place here with these girls. I read your questions and then what others had put on about Monash. I'm a CFC girl and loved it so wanted to put on my perspective. I know you're already booked in with ong but I thought I'd still write to you.
I saw Dr Davidson. He was truly amazing. Rarely waited longer than 30mins to see him and if they were a long way behind they call you in advance. He only does fertility and gynae surgical these days so unlike dr dutt etc you won't get a room full of pregnant woman that you wait with. Tre other positive is that he's across the road from CFC and you can walk between the two when needed.
I loved the staff. Nurses at dr F's office, clinic nurses, scientists etc. he does EPU at robins eye surgery. He gets priority over eye cases and it was all very good professional and friendly. You don't get a particular nurse. There are two nurses who are just sweet hearts and know your name so no need to explain everytime you ring. They sit you down and go through everything (injections, cycle, cost, drugs, expectations, etc) and are great at answering your queries.
All bloods are done through QML and and sent as a commercial bill back to CFC and included in your fees (most anyway. Only if you get additional ones but you're warned if its not included and you'll get those bills in the mail). If you have bt done by 9am you'll get results by that afternoon as they have an agreement for priority processing. All scans are done by dr d in his office.
Paument for dr D's appt are at the time but once you're into your cycle they're included in your cycle fee. You don't pay any of the $7500 (off the top of my head) ICSI fee until after EPU. They take your credit card/debit details and process it after EPU and they process your Medicare claim online on the day and you get approx $5500 back within about 24-48hrs. Mine went in overnight.
Last thing, transferring a day 5 blastocyst is preferred but I know CFC do transfer day 3 if necessary as its in the paperwork you Fill out. But it all depends on egg quality etc and your religious choices wouldn't be a problem I'm sure.
It's hard to know who to see and where to go. There are a lot of girls on here who see dr ong and have been successful and a lot of day 3 transfers that have been successful. So don't worry whoever you choose. Oh and I didn't go on the pill before starting my cycle either. Jump online and read Dr davidsons profile on his website if you are considering possibly going to CFC. He's right up there in the IVF field. He is CEO of CFC and knows his stuff. He's quiet but cheeky and I just felt comfortable with him. Oh and importantly I'm 18 weeks pregnant on my first cycle but FET so second embryo.
Goid luck and ask anything you like. These girls will turn out to be your lifesavers.
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