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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    Sorry you went through that. But terminating a fetus that couldn't have survived/was risking the life of the mother is totally different than aborting a fetus for lifestyle reasons.

    I agree with pp. There is inadequate counsellIng/support for women considering abortion now. The take a pill approach will just make it worse.
    What will you do if your 14 year old daughter comes to you and says she is pregnant, will you judge her make her feel like sh*t and tell her she cant have a termination, Orwould you support her decision if so would you prefer her to be able to take a pill at home with you or have a surgical procedure. Please dont come back and say your child wouldnt have sex at 14 cause the fact is you do not know how your child will turn out of what your child will do at that age, if you do cause your kids are older than that age now your granddaughter.

    Its all good and well to have these black and white views of the world and take out all the varrying factors and just look at right and wrong but real life isnt that simple it never had been and it never will be. There will always be factors to consider.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KyzaV View Post
    I am one that had a termination for my own selfish reasons. I was 17, contraception didn't work, I had no family to lean on or talk to, I knew I couldn't give my baby the life I think it would deserve and I couldn't bare the thought of looking at every child for the rest of my life wondering if it was my baby, so I travelled hrs to a hospital to have my termination, sat in a room with heaps of women of all different ages. It was such an emotional time, and yes I wish I could have stayed in my home town and had the pill.
    If anyone feels the need to tell me I'm a bad person or a murderer for what I did then go ahead, ive heard it all before.
    I feel for anyone that had to make such a tough decision, and yes I'm glad there's another option out there now
    And I choose not to judge anyone for having one because they have the rest of their lives to live with their decision. I think those that have had a termination live with enough regret/remorse/pain our whatever you want to call it for someone else to add to it. People have their reasons for feeling the need to do it. why add to their heartbreak.

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    Default Abortion pill RU486 approved by TGA

    In regards to the thoughts about there being inadequate counciling available, what do you deem adequate and where does this thought come from?

    I was 16 and with a boyfriend of 2 years on contraception and it failed, not through any fault of my own. Although I didn't want to think of aborting, I knew I would not have been able to raise a baby or put a baby up for adoption. I had extensive counciling. 2 weeks worth actually and about 4 weeks after too.

    The thing is people disagree on abortions and sometimes look down on those who choose them for themselves and then some also look down on the 16 year old mothers who are doing the best they can at the time. You can never please everyone so what works best for you is all you can do.

    I believe its very easy to say you would not abort when you are not in the position, feeling all the emotions, but when your in the middle of it your opinions can change drastically for whatever reason.

    Anyway this is a bit long sorry but there is alot of counciling available for those who go through this and I would imagine if someone was using abortion as a form of contraception, with the rules associated with this drug it would be picked up on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by misskittyfantastico View Post
    Is there? How do you know? I think unbiased counselling is extremely important, as are follow ups.
    Well it was when my friend had an abortion a few years back. No counsellIng at all. If she had counsellIng they would have discovered she had ppd and now
    She regrets her decision. Might not be the same everywhere.

    I agree unbiased counsellIng is very important.

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    Default Abortion pill RU486 approved by TGA

    Quote Originally Posted by Nowhere View Post
    What will you do if your 14 year old daughter comes to you and says she is pregnant, will you judge her make her feel like sh*t and tell her she cant have a termination, Orwould you support her decision if so would you prefer her to be able to take a pill at home with you or have a surgical procedure. Please dont come back and say your child wouldnt have sex at 14 cause the fact is you do not know how your child will turn out of what your child will do at that age, if you do cause your kids are older than that age now your granddaughter.

    Its all good and well to have these black and white views of the world and take out all the varrying factors and just look at right and wrong but real life isnt that simple it never had been and it never will be. There will always be factors to consider.
    I am against abortion, it doesn't mean I would state that to my child or even a good friend in that situation.

    So my child would receive love support and unbiased guidance. however If the law changed and the choice was taken out of our hands then well I wouldn't be sad id just get on with it and give her support in that regard.

    I am cheekily going to ignore your advice and say my 14 year old won't get pregnant. She will be supervised, and doing things like playing sports. And she will be on fool proof contraception when the time comes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    I am against abortion, it doesn't mean I would state that to my child or even a good friend in that situation.

    So my child would receive love support and unbiased guidance. however If the law changed and the choice was taken out of our hands then well I wouldn't be sad id just get on with it and give her support in that regard.

    I am cheekily going to ignore your advice and say my 14 year old won't get pregnant. She will be supervised, and doing things like playing sports. And she will be on fool proof contraception when the time comes.
    fool proof contraception?? are you gonna remove her uterus?

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    My only worry with this drug being avalible is that I hope women have the process fully explained to them.

    Personally, I was offered this drug in 2008 after a missed miscarriage and decided to take it over the surgery option. I was not fully prepared for the pain I was about to go through nor was I expecting the products that came out of me. It was a highly emotional time for both my husband and I. By no means is it a simple option of taking a tablet and poof pregnancy gone.

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    i am glad this drug is available so there is less surgery needed. but i am very worried about people who will start using it as a contraception and i hope the doctors that give out this pill will send the person to counseling first and keep track of how many times the person wants this pill, even if they go to dif doctors. i do not believe in terminations unless there is a medical reason, or a horrific event took place in order to get pregnant, but i wont judge anyone who makes the choice. everyone has their reasons for ending a pregnancy. and those people have to live with that for the rest of their lives and quiet often they are haunted by it. i have had a pregnancy ended due to medical reasons. and it was a scary thing to happen, i didnt know what was going on, i was only 19 and i started bleeding after having a temp of 39.9 not one person even my family told me i should go to the hospital when my temp was that high. i didnt know any better, i ended up having a d and c and i didnt know that that was what it was called until i joined this forum. i was very ill informed. i have to live with that now forever. that i was to stupid to go to the damn hospital when i was sick.

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    There are women out there that use abortion as contraception, I knew a couple in my 20's and it was a big part in me forming my pro life beliefs. But as I've got older I've realised they are in the minority.... and these women would have accessed surgical abortion anyway (and they did).

    AS to counselling, it seems to vary. 2 friends of mine had terminations and neither of them got much counselling at all. One was given an u/s then a script for the pill and that was it. But then someone else I know had one several years ago and received quite a bit, both before and after.

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    Default Abortion pill RU486 approved by TGA

    Quote Originally Posted by Aaliyahsmummy View Post
    My only worry with this drug being avalible is that I hope women have the process fully explained to them.

    Personally, I was offered this drug in 2008 after a missed miscarriage and decided to take it over the surgery option. I was not fully prepared for the pain I was about to go through nor was I expecting the products that came out of me. It was a highly emotional time for both my husband and I. By no means is it a simple option of taking a tablet and poof pregnancy gone.
    You are 100% right ! It is not an easier fix than surgery IMO. I know two people to have taken this drug and both swear it was the worst experience of their lives. My SIL nearly died taking this tablet. I watched her for three days in pain, vomiting, bleeding etc and by the end of the third day she ended up in hospital and stayed for a week. After two blood transfusions she was ok but was taking the tablet over the surgery worth it? The other girl I knew took it for an ectopic pregnancy and whilst I don't know specific details - she too ended up in hospital needing surgical assistance.

    I know this is only two people out of A spectrum of a lot of people but is your health worth it? In saying that I really hope that doctors give patients asking for this miracle drug, the proper precautionary warnings to enable them to make sounds decisions.

    I can bear to stand the thought of a teenager accessing this pill and doing it alone and having any sort of issues/reactions to it. This tablet terrifies me!


 

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