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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Bec~ View Post
    So why are you so vocal about it? I mean if there was a law to be introduced that made no affect to my life or anyone close to me (I don't have any close gay friends) and it didn't adversely impact others it wouldn't bother me. For example if a law was introduced that changed how CentreLink payments were made and it didn't adversely impact anyone it would be a non-issue to me. I wouldn't be over thinking it or posting on forums about it, I'd just get on with my life.
    I live in the world around me. I have a perception of what this world should be like. And I see marriage as between a man and a woman. It doesn't need to affect me personally for me to have a view.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Bec~ View Post
    Because 'marriage' is the term we have given to couples who have made a legal bond together. Why do we need a new term when we have a perfectly good one that just needs tweaking?
    Would you be happy to tweak it to change it from 'couples' to 'all'?
    Why did you limit it to couples?

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    Default Tasmanian Lower Houses passes same-sex marriage laws

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    I guess the next step is polygamous marriage?
    Why? Why would allowing men to marry men and women to marry women be a precursor to people having multiple spouses? Allowing couples who love each other has yet to lead to polygamy, I don't see how letting further couples who love each other will lead to polygamy.

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    Default Re: Tasmanian Lower Houses passes same-sex marriage laws

    Why was I permitted to use the term marriage when my ceremony was conducted by a celebrant? 70 years ago that wasn't considered a marriage. That would of been some hippy/pagan celebration.

    Marriage has it's own connotations of love and declaration of love. It's why non religious people want to marry despite it having nothing to do with the holy union under the church.

    Why deny same sex couples the right to a term and label that means quite simply 'i declare to love you forever'

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    Default Tasmanian Lower Houses passes same-sex marriage laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    Why does the word marriage have to be used? Why is this word so important?
    Because we are all equal so why NOT use the same word???

    We don't change the word based on age, ethnicity or sex, so why change it for same sex couples?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    Would you be happy to tweak it to change it from 'couples' to 'all'?
    Why did you limit it to couples?
    According to this line of though, if same-sex couples can have a civil union affording them the same rights as a married couple (for which you agree with) then polygamous civil unions will be soon to follow won't they?

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    Well lets turn it like this.
    What if I took the right away from you?
    How would you feel if I told you your marriage was not legal?
    Then I will ask you "what's the big deal, it's just marriage, it's just a word, you can still have a civil union"

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    Default Tasmanian Lower Houses passes same-sex marriage laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    I guess that it is a direct question to me, as I am the only person to post the non Bubhub lines.

    Afraid would not be the correct word. One of my main concerns is the 'slippery slope' that may ensue. Polygamy has already been discussed by some groups as the next step once legislation passes. After that, who knows what will be next.

    As I have said before. I have no problem with civil unions. But marriage does not need to be redefined.

    A couple of question back at you (or anyone).

    If civil unions are recognised, and homosexuals are given the exact same legal rights and protections as heterosexual couples, why is that not good enough?
    Why does the word marriage have to be used? Why is this word so important?
    Polygamy is not the next step, there is no mass movement in the country to legalise it like there is for same sex marriage. The slippery slope argument is very poor. But even so, say it did become legal. That would not mean YOU had to be polygamous. It would have no effect on YOUR lifestyle.

    The definition of marriage is only altering slightly to include same sex marriage. Why are civil unions not good enough? Because by calling them something else and making them different, you are not making them equal. Why not use the word marriage? Why is this word so important? It's just a word after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Atropos View Post
    Why? Why would allowing men to marry men and women to marry women be a precursor to people having multiple spouses? Allowing couples who love each other has yet to lead to polygamy, I don't see how letting further couples who love each other will lead to polygamy.
    Because that is exactly what is happening.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nati...-1226366157709

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nati...-1226361638668

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nati...-1226368714350

    Would you support polygamous marriage? I haven't heard anyone actually answer that question.

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    Default Tasmanian Lower Houses passes same-sex marriage laws

    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    Because that is exactly what is happening.

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nati...-1226366157709

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nati...-1226361638668

    http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nati...-1226368714350

    Would you support polygamous marriage? I haven't heard anyone actually answer that question.
    Wouldn't bother me, I don't have to have one. But there is still not a mass movement for this to happen.


 
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