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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    Yes it biased. I have no problem conceding that.
    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaronessM View Post
    But if one has any knowlege of the pathology of cancer, you cannot possibly believe that it can prevent penile cancer not associated with the tip of the foreskin...can you?
    Yes I can based on the research that I have read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    You summed up why it shouldn't be in the same category. Because no doctor would allow it. Circumcision is different. There is medical evidence of the benefits outweighing the risks. And doctors are quite happy to do the procedure as they are aware of the benefits.
    And hopefully one day we will become an educated society where no doctor performs ric because it is also ridiculous!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonja View Post
    And hopefully one day we will become an educated society where no doctor performs ric because it is also ridiculous!
    But they'd lose their $$.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    Yes I can based on the research that I have read.
    Care to share that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Witwicky View Post
    People can sprout their "medical reasons", but I don't buy it. You wouldn't remove other parts of the body based on pathetic stats like that. It is my belief that these babies get circumcised solely because the father is circumcised.
    I tend to think you are right, Witwicky. I can't believe the earlier post about a US NICU asking if they wanted the 26wo surviving twin circ'ed. Surely the parents had more pressing matters on their minds, like the immediate health concerns of their premmie.
    I met a lovely Mum in the NICU when my child stayed there after birth. She had no prob telling me bub was to be circ'd because his dad was circ'd. I called her a few weeks after hosp discharge to see how they were going. The poor bub (he was 38w gest age) had caught a terrible staph infection from his circ in a med environment, and I could hear him over the phone screaming in the background. He was on powerful anti-bio's, and mercifully, it cleared up ok. It caused him a month of agony, though, poor little guy. Hopefully this only happens to a minority of newborns who are circ'd, but it is a possibility. I wonder what the figures are ~ how many circ'd newborns get an infection from the procedure?

    I tend to think not only is it a case of 'being like daddy,' it's a powerplay thing (I think it's right, therefore I'll do it to you before you have the ability to choose), a little like spanking. Totally IMO. Surely if the health benefits outweigh the risks, a man/boy can remain intact to choose it later for himself.

    What is the % difference in benefits of having the procedure done as a newborn versus as an adult?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    Yes I can based on the research that I have read.
    Can you please explain to me how (circ prevents penile cancer in the rest of the penis, not just the foreskin)? I am actually interested in not so much your opinion, but how this is medically possible. Cheers.

    Also how it could prevent HIV...? Is it not transmitted through semen as well as blood...?
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    Quote Originally Posted by misskittyfantastico View Post
    Care to share that?
    http://www.circinfo.net/cancer_of_the_penis.html

    Have a read of the link. All statements and facts are referenced for further reading if required.

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    Cheers. I'll have a read, only because I cannot understand how this could be possible.

    And prevention of transmission of HIV?
    Last edited by BaronessM; 30-08-2012 at 01:02. Reason: HIV ref

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaronessM View Post
    Cheers. I'll have a read, only because I cannot understand how this could be possible.

    And prevention of transmission of HIV?
    This may be a good starting point for the HIV question.

    http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/fac...rcumcision.htm


 

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