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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    Really?? I have not met one.
    Nor have I but that's because the only bloke I talk to about circ is my partner. Have a quick google, there's even a forum dedicated to foreskin restoration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopefully2 View Post
    I know a whole lot more circumcised men then all of you and I have not met one! Not one.

    If there are actually men with willy hang ups i presume they would have issues either way.
    There are men who have frequented this very forum who did not wish to be circed. Your disregard of their feelings is gross.

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    Whilst I'm out on that limb I'm going to take another big step outwards... In regard to the point that we (ie, anti-ric supporters) just won't get it and it's importance in a religion, that in itself is another reason why it should be challenged. If someone who has not been raised as a Jew or Muslim, cannot understand the reasoning behind this practice (despite truly wanting to) and only those that have been bought up in the religion can, what does that tell you about that upbringing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ~Bec~ View Post
    Whilst I'm out on that limb I'm going to take another big step outwards... In regard to the point that we (ie, anti-ric supporters) just won't get it and it's importance in a religion, that in itself is another reason why it should be challenged. If someone who has not been raised as a Jew or Muslim, cannot understand the reasoning behind this practice (despite truly wanting to) and only those that have been bought up in the religion can, what does that tell you about that upbringing?
    That it's different to yours but probably quite similar too.

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    I know ridiculous probably 100% of women get thrush at some point. Better remove our vaginas people!
    Ha ha!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    I will remind you all, that the American Academy of Pediatrics say that the medical benefits outweigh the risks, and that parents should circumcise their boys. This is despite VicPark's attempt at reading the statement.
    You're the one reading things incorrectly to suit your own agenda.

    The AAP does say the medical benefits outweigh the risks. However they say the medical benefits are still so minuscule they don't recommend mass circumcision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    The AAP does say the medical benefits outweigh the risks. However they say the medical benefits are still so minuscule they don't recommend mass circumcision.
    So do you agree that the benefits do outweigh the risks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopefully2 View Post
    Most men who have been circed have no problem with it, hold no resentments towards their parents and feel that their penis is still their best mate.
    People grow up influenced by their surroundings and what they perceive to be normal. Some abused kids think their family life is normal because that's all they've known. Poor Kids eating just rice and beans think it's normal because that's all they have known.

    It would be a brave circumcised man who criticized his parents decision for that would involve admitting his penis isn't in peak condition.

    Adults not being bothered by being cut is not reason enough to do it. The onus is on the cutter to provide a darned good reason for taking a knife to a baby.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VicPark View Post
    People grow up influenced by their surroundings and what they perceive to be normal.
    It would be a brave circumcised man who criticized his parents decision for that would involve admitting his penis isn't in peak condition.

    Adults not being bothered by being cut is not reason enough to do it. The onus is on the cutter to provide a darned good reason for taking a knife to a baby.
    I am not a huge fan of the language that you use here, but I am more than happy to provide my 'darned good reasons' for doing it.

    I agree with the normalisation comment. In much the same way that boys growing up with foreskin problems that causes pain whenever they urinate or get an erection can also perceive this as being normal, and never even seek help, resulting in life long discomfort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father View Post
    So do you agree that the benefits do outweigh the risks?
    Yes. But:
    - the benefits are tiny.... So tiny that I believe circumcision (unless for specific medical conditions) is a cruel violation of human rights.
    - the risks still aren't worth it.


 

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